{"id":162,"date":"2011-07-30T21:38:56","date_gmt":"2011-07-30T21:38:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/preacherskid\/?p=162"},"modified":"2011-07-31T20:08:09","modified_gmt":"2011-07-31T20:08:09","slug":"bad-karma-when-you-dis-others-holy-persons-places-or-things","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/preacherskid\/2011\/07\/bad-karma-when-you-dis-others-holy-persons-places-or-things.html","title":{"rendered":"Bad Karma when you &#8216;dis&#8217; others&#8217; holy persons, places or things"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mess with someone&#8217;s scriptures, holy sites, holy figures, sacred symbols and icons or even their blessed undergarments (shout out to my Mormon friends, and the antics of Latter-day Saint underwear tossing street preachers at Salt Lake City&#8217;s Temple Square), and you can get yourself into<em> trouble.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It could be trouble, as in stern scowls or maybe a punch in the nose, or it could be<em> Trouble<\/em>, as in bloody riots, protests and midnight torches and mobs in the streets.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_164\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-164\" style=\"width: 221px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/preacherskid\/files\/2011\/07\/BOOK_01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-164\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/279\/2011\/07\/BOOK_01-221x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"221\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-164\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Really, you didn&#039;t expect me to show an &quot;illustrated&quot; Kama Sutra cover, did you?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Latest example:<\/em> Famed India fashion designer Suneet Varma had the ill-advised (however accurate) audacity to remark that the Kama Sutra is the<a title=\"most celebrated\" href=\"http:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/life-style\/fashion\/shows\/Suneets-Kamasutra-remark-irks-Hindus\/articleshow\/9369175.cms\" target=\"_blank\"><em> most celebrated<\/em> <\/a>Hindu text on the planet. Not coincidentally, Varma recently released his&#8221; Kamasutra&#8221; clothing line. That rather upset Rajan Zed, president of the Universal Society of Hinduism.<\/p>\n<p>You see, probably most Westerners &#8212; especially men &#8212; will connect the word &#8220;Hindu&#8221; with what they vaguely recall is a multi-position sex manual called the <a title=\"Kama Sutra\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kama_Sutra\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Kama Sutra<\/em><\/a>(actually, it is much more than just that; more on that later). Few people outside of India, however, will think of the weightier Hindu texts such as the Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavad-Gita and others.<\/p>\n<p>So, Zed wants Varma to apologize. First, for giving a relatively minor, if steamy, text a place over the more-revered scriptures, and second, for commercializing <a title=\"Hinduism\" href=\"http:\/\/www.religioustolerance.org\/hinduism.htm\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Hinduism<\/em><\/a>, an ancient faith of nearly one billion adherants.<\/p>\n<p>So, back to the<em> Kama Sutra<\/em>. Hindus will tell you that the text&#8217;s illustrations of various love-making techniques are indeed many, in context the<em> Kama Sutra<\/em> is meant as a poetic guide to just part of a poetic guide to Dharma (virtuous living), Artha (material wealth and Moksha (liberation), as well as Kama (pleasure).<\/p>\n<p>As a Christian teen, awash in testosterone, I found the Old Testament&#8217;s<a title=\"http:\/\/www.religioustolerance.org\/hinduism.htm\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Song_of_solomon\" target=\"_blank\"><em> Song of Solomon<\/em><\/a> made my heart beat a little faster (<em>even without illustration<\/em>). It was not a frequent (<em>well, ever<\/em>) choice for Bible study or congregational reading in my Dad&#8217;s churches. Pentecostals tend to flush beat red when reading about<em> &#8220;kisses&#8221;<\/em> and<em> &#8220;chambers,&#8221; &#8220;beds,&#8221; &#8220;desire&#8221;<\/em> and<em> &#8220;lying betwixt my breasts.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But you know, it was, uh, <a title=\"all allegorical\" href=\"http:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/allegorical\" target=\"_blank\"><em>all allegorical.<\/em><\/a> To Orthodox Jews, I&#8217;m told, it is Solomon&#8217;s symbolic representation of Israel&#8217;s relationship to God. Christians took that a step further, applying it to Christ&#8217;s relationship to his church, the body of believers.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know, but there are a few things that make we wonder, especially about that last bit &#8212; Solomon reigned almost 1,000 years before the advent of Christ, for one; and the guy, by tradition, had<em> 700 wives and 300 concubines.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>That just tends to make me think this work of prose, albeit rich in imagery and metaphor, just may boil down to a literary love song penned by a passion-sick Middle Eastern king. And I&#8217;ll tell you this, there aren&#8217;t a few fundamentalist Christian (<em>or Catholic, or Jewish, or Muslim<\/em>) scholars out there who would likely demand an apology from anyone, by implication, <a title=\"stripping deep theological meaning\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theologyweb.com\/campus\/showthread.php?82796-Song-of-Solomon-Allegory-or-Not\" target=\"_blank\">stripping deep theological meaning<\/a> from Solomon&#8217;s song.<\/p>\n<p>Hey, I could be wrong. Probably am. There&#8217;s no reason<em> not<\/em> to use a beautiful poem as a literary, theological framework. Done all the time with other scriptural passages. But I&#8217;m just saying: <em>You don&#8217;t &#8220;dis&#8221; people&#8217;s sacred things or people or places.<\/em> Seems simple enough.<\/p>\n<p>If you do, more than righteous indication and verbal condemnation can result. Consider that many Muslims believe it is explicitly forbidden to visually depict Muhammad. So, when a Danish newspaper published editorial cartoons a few years ago depicting Muhammad as a terrorist, <a title=\"violent riots\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Timeline_of_the_Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy\" target=\"_blank\">violent riots<\/a> ensued in the Middle East. There were even plots to assassinate one of the cartoonists.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_163\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-163\" style=\"width: 201px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/preacherskid\/files\/2011\/07\/buddy_jesus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-163\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/279\/2011\/07\/buddy_jesus-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"201\" height=\"201\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-163\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&quot;Dogma&quot; movie&#039;s &quot;Buddy Christ&quot;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>(By the way, depictions of holy figures also cause angst outside of Islam. When the<em> &#8220;Buddy Christ&#8221;<\/em> parody icon (see picture to right) appeared in the 1999 movie <a title=\"&quot;Dogma&quot;\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dogma_%28film%29\" target=\"_blank\"><em>&#8220;Dogma,&#8221;<\/em> <\/a>the Catholic League was none too thrilled, condemning the film and its fast-and-loose comedic\/sacrilegious romp through Catholic beliefs. Makers of the film reported receiving 300,000 pieces of hate mail, including death threats.)<\/p>\n<p>More recently, a small-time Florida pastor made himself into a<a title=\"worldwide pariah \" href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/religion\/2011-03-21-quran-burning-florida_N.htm?AID=4992781&amp;PID=4165901&amp;SID=1gid664un5k1u\" target=\"_blank\"> worldwide pariah <\/a>to most, and a hero to like-minded bigots, when he held a mock trial of Islam, convicted the faith and then carried out his sentence by burning a<a title=\"Qu'ran\" href=\"http:\/\/quran.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Qu&#8217;ran<\/a> in a portable fire pit. Enraged mobs killed more than a dozen people and injured scores more in ensuing Middle East rioting.<\/p>\n<p><em>I know,<a title=\"freedom of speech\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/plum-line\/post\/koran-burning-may-be-reprehensible-but-its-still-free-speech\/2011\/03\/04\/AF0wDubC_blog.html\" target=\"_blank\"> freedom of speech<\/a><\/em>. Just saying, there&#8217;s a cost to be paid, and sometimes it is the <a title=\"blood of innocents\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bosnewslife.com\/17343-news-alert-afghan-man-beheaded-for-faith-in-christ\" target=\"_blank\"><em>blood of innocents<\/em><\/a>.\u00a0 It&#8217;s seldom the speakers, either, who pay that price. Death is real;<em> what is rhetoric worth?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" 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