{"id":31,"date":"2009-07-23T11:01:03","date_gmt":"2009-07-23T11:01:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/prayerplainandsimple\/2009\/07\/putting-the-screws-on-god.html"},"modified":"2009-07-23T11:01:03","modified_gmt":"2009-07-23T11:01:03","slug":"putting-the-screws-on-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/prayerplainandsimple\/2009\/07\/putting-the-screws-on-god.html","title":{"rendered":"Putting the Screws on God"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\">Last year, my poet\/blogger\/cultural-critic\/brain-trust behind <a href=\"http:\/\/www.popthought.com\">&#8220;Popthought&#8221;<\/a>&nbsp;friend Alex Ness, ran an interview he did reviewing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sixprayers.com\">&#8220;Six Prayers God Always Answers&#8221;<\/a> the book I wrote last year with Jennifer Schuchmann. Alex has a poignant way of cutting through the &#8220;c&#8221; to get to the heart of matters of things &#8220;spiritual.&#8221; Over the next couple days I&#8217;ll post some excerpts from this interview. Toss in your comments as well&#8230; You can read more of Alex at <a href=\"http:\/\/deadtomyflesh.blogspot.com\/\">&#8220;deadtomyflesh&#8221;. <\/a><\/font><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\">Alex: You seem to imply that we can &#8220;test&#8221; prayer. Really? Under what conditions can we test prayer without putting the screws to God? <\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\">Mark: What&#8217;s wrong with testing, or as you say, &#8220;putting the screws to&#8221; God? The Bible is full of stories of people who put his promises on the line, stepped out and forced God&#8217;s hand. He seems to like that kind of boldness. He respects it and often responds. Look at Jesus. He&#8217;s at his best when people get desperate and impose on him &#8211; the men who tear the roof off Peter&#8217;s house to get their sick friend in front of Jesus, the sick woman who crawls on her hands and knees to touch Jesus. That touch secured her healing but as a sick woman she had no right to impose like that. It was audacious and rude. She was testing Jesus. It worked. <\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\">&#8220;Testing&#8221; crosses the line only when it becomes &#8220;testy&#8221; &#8211; an presumptuous provocation. If I take God up on something he&#8217;s already said, something he&#8217;s promised to do or said he prefers, he respects that immensely. He&#8217;s already said he hates injustice. I&#8217;m not &#8220;testy&#8221; if I put God on the line with a prayer about feeding the hungry and oppressed in Darfur. That&#8217;s a test God would love to take, and pass.<\/font><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><font color=\"#000000\">Testiness is different. In the Gospels the Devil tempts Jesus to jump off the roof of the temple so God can rescue him. This is showy manipulation and God won&#8217;t have any part of that. That&#8217;s a test he won&#8217;t take. If I fall off a roof, I can cry out and expect his help, of some kind, though perhaps in a surprise way. If I jump off a roof just to force God&#8217;s hand I&#8217;ll likely end up a pancake. God doesn&#8217;t take to the circus bit. <\/font><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><span><font color=\"#000000\">Thoughts? Do you ever &#8220;test&#8221; God? How has God responded?<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/font><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last year, my poet\/blogger\/cultural-critic\/brain-trust behind &#8220;Popthought&#8221;&nbsp;friend Alex Ness, ran an interview he did reviewing &#8220;Six Prayers God Always Answers&#8221; the book I wrote last year with Jennifer Schuchmann. 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