{"id":324,"date":"2009-03-12T11:05:44","date_gmt":"2009-03-12T11:05:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/pontifications\/2009\/03\/cardinal-egan-on-celibacy-a-pe.html"},"modified":"2009-03-12T11:05:44","modified_gmt":"2009-03-12T11:05:44","slug":"cardinal-egan-on-celibacy-a-pe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/2009\/03\/cardinal-egan-on-celibacy-a-pe.html","title":{"rendered":"Cardinal Egan on celibacy: &#8220;A perfectly legitimate discussion.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p dir=\"ltr\">New York&#8217;s Cardinal Edward Egan a closet liberal? Who knew?! Well, he&#8217;s out now. In a 30-minute interview with a NY radio show&#8211;part of Egan&#8217;s valedictory tour as he prepares to leave office&#8211;His Eminence did indeed say that celibacy is&nbsp;&#8220;a perfectly legitimate discussion.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s going to be looked at, and I am not so sure it wouldn&#8217;t be a good idea to decide on the basis of geography and culture not to make an across-the-board determination,&#8221; Egan said on&nbsp;the <span>Fred Dicker Show.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>As the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.osvdailytake.com\/2009\/03\/ny-cardinal-predicts-discussion-on.html\">Our Sunday Visitor blog<\/a> recounts it, Egan seemed to chalk his openness to optional celibacy up to the vocations crisis and his disappointment in not being able to reverse that trend during his tenure. And he noted&#8211;as so many have over so many years (decades? centuries?) that Eastern Catholic churches have had no problems with optional celibacy.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Is it a closed issue? No, that&#8217;s not a dogmatic stand,&#8221; he said, when Dicker asked if he had &#8220;any hesitancy about priestly celibacy.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Listen to the whole show <a href=\"http:\/\/podcast.talk1300.com\/\">here<\/a>. The celibacy remarks are&nbsp;near the end&#8211;sort of like Egan&#8217;s tenure&nbsp;as NY archbishop, which of course leads to the&nbsp;question of why he has waited until now to speak up on an issue that is anathema to the Vatican.<\/p>\n<p>One reason may be that, <a href=\"http:\/\/whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/clarification.html\">as Rocco notes<\/a>, the head of the Vatican&#8217;s Congregation for Clery, Brazil&#8217;s Cardinal Claudio Hummes &#8220;was forced to retract similar comments made in the Brazilian press following his 2006 appointment.&#8221; Hummes stated that such a discussion on celibacy was &#8220;not on the table.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Except that it is on the table. It&#8217;s just that no one wants to see the table. Except that we keep bumping into it.<\/p>\n<p>Egan&#8217;s comments are surprising (and perhaps disappointing to those who would have liked to hear them years ago) but not altogether surprising. Egan did not possess the pastor&#8217;s touch as a bishop, to be sure. But I was struck by his&nbsp;pastoral sensitivity a few years ago during one of the (interminable) debates at bishops meetings over the coming liturgical changes to a more literal Latin-sounding English. Egan took the mike and forcefully, with exasperation even, denounced the proposed changes and said, almost verbatim, &#8220;For Heaven&#8217;s sake, we have to think of the people, and the pastoral priority here, of all these changes coming down all the time.&#8221; If only he&#8217;d translated that into action a bit more as archbishop. But there will be a new fellow soon, though I don&#8217;t expect&nbsp;Timothy Dolan will rock the celibacy boat. <\/p>\n<p><strong>PS:<\/strong> Egan&#8217;s idea of starting optional celibacy on a &#8220;local option&#8221; basis seems eminently sane and practical.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>New York&#8217;s Cardinal Edward Egan a closet liberal? Who knew?! Well, he&#8217;s out now. In a 30-minute interview with a NY radio show&#8211;part of Egan&#8217;s valedictory tour as he prepares to leave office&#8211;His Eminence did indeed say that celibacy is&nbsp;&#8220;a perfectly legitimate discussion.&#8221; &#8220;I think it&#8217;s going to be looked at, and I am not&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":128,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,2,6,7,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-324","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bishops","category-catholic","category-church","category-history","category-pope"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Cardinal Egan on celibacy: &quot;A perfectly legitimate discussion.&quot; - Pontifications<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/2009\/03\/cardinal-egan-on-celibacy-a-pe.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Cardinal Egan on celibacy: &quot;A perfectly legitimate discussion.&quot; - Pontifications\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"New York&#8217;s Cardinal Edward Egan a closet liberal? 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He came by all those vocations by accident, or Providence, during a longer-than-expected sojourn in Rome in the 1980s. Gibson began his journalistic career as a walk-on sports editor and columnist at The International Courier, a small daily in Rome serving Italy's English-language community. He then found a job as a newscaster and writer across the Tiber at the English Programme at Vatican Radio, an entity he describes as a cross between NPR and Armed Forces Radio for the pope. The Jesuits who ran the radio were charitable enough to hire Gibson even though he had no radio background, could not pronounce the name \"Karol Wojtyla,\" and wasn't Catholic. Time and experience overcame all those challenges, and Gibson went on to cover dozens of John Paul II's overseas trips, including papal visits to Africa, Europe, Latin America and the United States. When Gibson returned to the United States in 1990 he returned to print journalism to cover the religion beat in his native New Jersey for two dailies. He worked first for The Record of Hackensack, and then for The Star-Ledger of New Jersey, winning the nation's top awards in religion writing at both places. In 1999 he won the Supple Religion Writer of the Year contest, and in 2000 he was chosen as the Templeton Religion Reporter of the Year. Gibson is a longtime board member of the Religion Newswriters Association and he is a contributor to ReligionLink, a service of the Religion Newswriters Foundation. Since 2003, David Gibson has been an independent writer specializing in Catholicism, religion in contemporary America, and early Christian history. His work has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Boston Magazine, Commonweal, America, The New York Observer, Beliefnet and Religion News Service. He has produced documentaries on early Christianity for CNN and other networks and has traveled on assignment to dozens of countries, with an emphasis on reporting from Europe and the Middle East. He is a frequent television commentator and has appeared on the major cable and broadcast networks. He is also a regular speaker at conferences and seminars on Catholicism, religion in America, and journalism. Gibson's first book, The Coming Catholic Church: How the Faithful are Shaping a New American Catholicism (HarperSanFrancisco), was published in 2003 and deals with the church-wide crisis revealed by the clergy sexual abuse crisis. 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