{"id":271,"date":"2009-02-13T09:44:54","date_gmt":"2009-02-13T09:44:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/pontifications\/2009\/02\/sspx-did-tough-talk-win-papal.html"},"modified":"2009-02-13T09:44:54","modified_gmt":"2009-02-13T09:44:54","slug":"sspx-did-tough-talk-win-papal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/2009\/02\/sspx-did-tough-talk-win-papal.html","title":{"rendered":"SSPX: Did tough talk win papal concessions?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A fascinating in-house SSPX interview with Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the schismatic right-wing order, shows he was taken by suprise by Benedict&#8217;s sudden lifting of the excommunications. Why? As Reuters&#8217; Tom Heneghan has it in <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.reuters.com\/faithworld\/2009\/02\/12\/fellay-surprised-by-how-quickly-excommunications-were-lifted\/\">this FaithWorld post<\/a><\/strong>, Fellay says (translation from the French) that relations with Rome had been &#8220;rather cold&#8221; for months.<br \/>\nFellay confirms that he rejected the Vatican&#8217;s &#8220;ultimatum&#8221; (maybe call it a &#8220;penultimatum&#8221;?) last June, and then he wrote the Vatican in December requesting that the excommunications be lifted. &#8220;Since the letter was relatively severe, I didn&#8217;t expect a quick response. It was just a way to reestablish contact,&#8221; Fellay says.<br \/>\nThen boom, in January Vatican officials said they wanted to discuss something with him urgently, and presto, excommuncations gone. As Heneghan writes:<br \/>\n<strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What is striking in this part of Fellay&#8217;s account is the apparently sloppy handling of this even beforehand. Let&#8217;s step back and remember that this split was the most important schismatic act since the Second Vatican Council. The Vatican has been dealing with this issue for years. Why such a rush all of a sudden?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><\/strong><br \/>\nThat question remains. As does where they go from here. Fellay said negotiations with Rome now would be &#8220;not necessarily short, maybe even long.&#8221; But he seems to have reason to hold out, and the basis for an eventual deal. Another Reuters story recounts <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/in.reuters.com\/article\/worldNews\/idINIndia-37968320090211\">Fellay&#8217;s interview this week <\/a><\/strong>with <em>Famille Chretienne<\/em>, a Catholic weekly, in which he seemed to indicate how the SSPX would try to get around accepting parts of the Second Vatican Council they don&#8217;t like:<br \/>\n<strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;One cannot approach it in a dogmatic way and say &#8216;amen&#8217; to everything. This approach is completely wrong. There are different domains, themes and degrees of authority,&#8221; he said. &#8220;In my opinion, many of the problems we point out can be resolved by distinctions and not by absolute acceptances or rejections.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <\/strong><br \/>\nNice deal if you can get it. Maybe he can.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A fascinating in-house SSPX interview with Bishop Bernard Fellay, head of the schismatic right-wing order, shows he was taken by suprise by Benedict&#8217;s sudden lifting of the excommunications. Why? 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When Gibson returned to the United States in 1990 he returned to print journalism to cover the religion beat in his native New Jersey for two dailies. He worked first for The Record of Hackensack, and then for The Star-Ledger of New Jersey, winning the nation's top awards in religion writing at both places. In 1999 he won the Supple Religion Writer of the Year contest, and in 2000 he was chosen as the Templeton Religion Reporter of the Year. Gibson is a longtime board member of the Religion Newswriters Association and he is a contributor to ReligionLink, a service of the Religion Newswriters Foundation. Since 2003, David Gibson has been an independent writer specializing in Catholicism, religion in contemporary America, and early Christian history. His work has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Boston Magazine, Commonweal, America, The New York Observer, Beliefnet and Religion News Service. 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