{"id":238,"date":"2009-01-29T10:21:25","date_gmt":"2009-01-29T10:21:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/pontifications\/2009\/01\/bishop-williamson-we-win.html"},"modified":"2009-01-29T10:21:25","modified_gmt":"2009-01-29T10:21:25","slug":"bishop-williamson-we-win","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/2009\/01\/bishop-williamson-we-win.html","title":{"rendered":"Bishop Williamson: We win!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bishop Williamson--Reuters.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/125\/import\/imgs\/Bishop%20Williamson--Reuters.jpg\" width=\"240\" height=\"320\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right;margin: 0 0 20px 20px\" \/><\/span>That&#8217;s more or less the sense one gets from reading the latest column, <strong>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/dinoscopus.blogspot.com\/2009\/01\/re-incommunication.html\">The Re-Incommunication<\/a>,&#8221;<\/strong> from the most notorious of the rehabilitated schismatic bishops, Richard Williamson. Williamson, an English-born convert from Anglicanism, has been the poster bishop for the ultra-Tradtionalist Society of St. Pius X because of his various interviews denying the Holocaust (as well as 9\/11, and his views on women and &#8220;The Sound of Music,&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/pontifications\/2009\/01\/rewriting-history-vatican-ii-g.html\">as I wrote here<\/a>.)<br \/>\nOn his blog (who <u>doesn&#8217;t<\/u> have one these days?) the bishop blasts the real enemy as &#8220;conciliarism,&#8221; or an ideology that a Council trumps all and can be used to somehow pervert the Faith and the Churc and&#8211;most notably&#8211;the Pope. The full text of Williamson&#8217;s remarks are after the jump. But here&#8217;s a taste:<br \/>\n<strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is a great step forward for the Church because if the Church&#8217;s problem ever since Vatican II has been a separation of Catholic Authority from Catholic Truth, with this Decree Catholic Authority has taken a decisive step back towards their re-union. Just as after the Motu Proprio of July, 2007, nobody could any longer say that the true rite of Mass was banned by Rome, even if they can still behave as though it is, so too now nobody can any longer say that Catholics holding to Tradition are &#8220;outside the Church&#8221;. Certainly a number of Conciliarists will go on behaving as though they are, but they clearly no longer have the Pope on their side only. The difference is enormous!<br \/>\nOf course there is still a long way to go before the neo-modernists in Rome, conscious or unconscious, realize &#8211; if ever! &#8211; how they mistake the Faith, but as the old proverb says, &#8220;Rome was not built in a day&#8221;, and it will not be repaired in a day. Nevertheless &#8220;Half a loaf is better than no bread&#8221; &#8211; ask a hungry man! &#8211; so meanwhile let us know how to thank God for this major shift of the rudder of the Conciliar Church. Let us then thank the Blessed Virgin Mary whose intervention will have been decisive, thanks to the nigh on one and three quarter million rosaries offered to her for this intention, by a number of yourselves amongst others. And let us thank and pray for Benedict XVI and all his collaborators who helped to push through this Decree, despite, for instance, a media uproar orchestrated and timed to prevent it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><\/strong><br \/>\nAnd who runs that media? Better not to ask&#8230;<br \/>\nAs <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.reuters.com\/faithworld\/2009\/01\/28\/bishop-williamson-says-sspx-will-never-agree-to-conciliarism\/\">Reuters&#8217; Tom Heneghan asks at FaithWorld<\/a><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Will someone like Williamson negotiate in good faith, or just stonewall now that his excommunication has been revoked? Could he drag his feet so long that the Vatican gives up demanding &#8220;the further steps needed to achieve full communion with the Church&#8221; and simply gives them a full rehabilitation on their terms?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<strong>The full text:<\/strong><br \/>\nSaturday, January 24, 2009<br \/>\nThe &#8220;Re-Incommunication&#8221;<br \/>\nEleison Comments LXXXII<br \/>\nAs of course a large number of readers already know, a Decree dated Jan. 21 from the Congregation of Bishops in Rome (not Ecclesia Dei) &#8220;remitted&#8221; the &#8220;excommunicating&#8221; Decree of July 1, 1988, so that the four Society of St. Pius X bishops then declared to be &#8220;excommunicated&#8221; are now &#8220;re-incommunicated&#8221;. In my opinion this latter Decree is a great step forward for the Church without being a betrayal on the part of the SSPX.<br \/>\nIt is a great step forward for the Church because if the Church&#8217;s problem ever since Vatican II has been a separation of Catholic Authority from Catholic Truth, with this Decree Catholic Authority has taken a decisive step back towards their re-union. Just as after the Motu Proprio of July, 2007, nobody could any longer say that the true rite of Mass was banned by Rome, even if they can still behave as though it is, so too now nobody can any longer say that Catholics holding to Tradition are &#8220;outside the Church&#8221;. Certainly a number of Conciliarists will go on behaving as though they are, but they clearly no longer have the Pope on their side only. The difference is enormous!<br \/>\nOf course there is still a long way to go before the neo-modernists in Rome, conscious or unconscious, realize &#8211; if ever! &#8211; how they mistake the Faith, but as the old proverb says, &#8220;Rome was not built in a day&#8221;, and it will not be repaired in a day. Nevertheless &#8220;Half a loaf is better than no bread&#8221; &#8211; ask a hungry man! &#8211; so meanwhile let us know how to thank God for this major shift of the rudder of the Conciliar Church. Let us then thank the Blessed Virgin Mary whose intervention will have been decisive, thanks to the nigh on one and three quarter million rosaries offered to her for this intention, by a number of yourselves amongst others. And let us thank and pray for Benedict XVI and all his collaborators who helped to push through this Decree, despite, for instance, a media uproar orchestrated and timed to prevent it.<br \/>\nHowever, by asking for and accepting such reconciliation with the Conciliar Church, is not the SSPX threatening to lead the way back into Conciliarism? In no way! No doubt some Conciliarists in Rome are hoping that the Decree will serve to draw the SSPX back into the fold of Vatican II, but the Decree itself, as it stands, commits the Society to nothing more than to entering into those discussions to which the Society committed itself in 2000 when it proposed the liberation of the Mass and the ending of the &#8220;excommunications&#8221; as preconditions in the first place.<br \/>\nThen are such discussions without danger? Certainly not! But St. Peter says we should always be &#8220;ready to satisfy every one that asks you for a reason of that hope which is in you&#8221; (I Pet. III, 15). How can the SSPX not rejoice in the opportunity to lay out in Rome, before the Roman authorities themselves, the profound doctrinal reasons which we believe to be at the root of the Church&#8217;s present distress? Woe unto us Catholics of Tradition if we were not ready to give reason for that hope which is in us for the rescue of the Church! So continue to pray the Rosary, dear Catholics, for the possible realization and outcome of such discussions, so that they may serve first, last and foremost, the interests of God, of God, of God. Kyrie eleison.<br \/>\nLa Reja, Argentina<br \/>\nPosted by Bishop Richard Williamson at 2:01 PM<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>That&#8217;s more or less the sense one gets from reading the latest column, &#8220;The Re-Incommunication,&#8221; from the most notorious of the rehabilitated schismatic bishops, Richard Williamson. Williamson, an English-born convert from Anglicanism, has been the poster bishop for the ultra-Tradtionalist Society of St. Pius X because of his various interviews denying the Holocaust (as well&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":128,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,2,6,7,3,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-238","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bishops","category-catholic","category-church","category-history","category-politics","category-pope"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Bishop Williamson: We win! - Pontifications<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/2009\/01\/bishop-williamson-we-win.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Bishop Williamson: We win! - Pontifications\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"That&#8217;s more or less the sense one gets from reading the latest column, &#8220;The Re-Incommunication,&#8221; from the most notorious of the rehabilitated schismatic bishops, Richard Williamson. 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He came by all those vocations by accident, or Providence, during a longer-than-expected sojourn in Rome in the 1980s. Gibson began his journalistic career as a walk-on sports editor and columnist at The International Courier, a small daily in Rome serving Italy's English-language community. He then found a job as a newscaster and writer across the Tiber at the English Programme at Vatican Radio, an entity he describes as a cross between NPR and Armed Forces Radio for the pope. The Jesuits who ran the radio were charitable enough to hire Gibson even though he had no radio background, could not pronounce the name \"Karol Wojtyla,\" and wasn't Catholic. Time and experience overcame all those challenges, and Gibson went on to cover dozens of John Paul II's overseas trips, including papal visits to Africa, Europe, Latin America and the United States. When Gibson returned to the United States in 1990 he returned to print journalism to cover the religion beat in his native New Jersey for two dailies. He worked first for The Record of Hackensack, and then for The Star-Ledger of New Jersey, winning the nation's top awards in religion writing at both places. In 1999 he won the Supple Religion Writer of the Year contest, and in 2000 he was chosen as the Templeton Religion Reporter of the Year. Gibson is a longtime board member of the Religion Newswriters Association and he is a contributor to ReligionLink, a service of the Religion Newswriters Foundation. Since 2003, David Gibson has been an independent writer specializing in Catholicism, religion in contemporary America, and early Christian history. His work has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fortune, Boston Magazine, Commonweal, America, The New York Observer, Beliefnet and Religion News Service. He has produced documentaries on early Christianity for CNN and other networks and has traveled on assignment to dozens of countries, with an emphasis on reporting from Europe and the Middle East. He is a frequent television commentator and has appeared on the major cable and broadcast networks. He is also a regular speaker at conferences and seminars on Catholicism, religion in America, and journalism. Gibson's first book, The Coming Catholic Church: How the Faithful are Shaping a New American Catholicism (HarperSanFrancisco), was published in 2003 and deals with the church-wide crisis revealed by the clergy sexual abuse crisis. 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He lives in Brooklyn with his wife and daughter and is working on a book about conversion, and on several film and television projects.","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/author\/dgibson"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/238","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/128"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=238"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/238\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=238"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=238"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/pontifications\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=238"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}