{"id":747,"date":"2009-08-11T15:36:28","date_gmt":"2009-08-11T15:36:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/onecity\/2009\/08\/secularizing-buddhism-making-it-accessible-or-stripping-the-roots.html"},"modified":"2009-08-11T15:36:28","modified_gmt":"2009-08-11T15:36:28","slug":"secularizing-buddhism-making-it-accessible-or-stripping-the-roots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/onecity\/2009\/08\/secularizing-buddhism-making-it-accessible-or-stripping-the-roots.html","title":{"rendered":"Secularizing Buddhism&#8211;Making it Accessible or Stripping the Roots?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Vince_Bio1.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/124\/import\/assets_c\/2009\/08\/Vince_Bio1-thumb-175x193-7139.jpg\" width=\"175\" height=\"193\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right;margin: 0 0 20px 20px\" \/><i>A Guest Post for the <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/onecity\"><i>One City Blog<\/i><\/a><i>&nbsp;by Vince Horn of <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.buddhistgeeks.com\/\"><i>Buddhist Geeks<\/i><\/a><i>&nbsp;(Full Bio Below).<\/i><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><\/span><\/p>\n<div><i><br \/><\/i><\/div>\n<div><i><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">It&#8217;s a very common and hip thing today to want to make<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/5977093\/Buddhism-is-fastest-growing-religion-in-English-jails-over-past-decade.html\">Buddhism<\/a> secular.&nbsp; Many very<br \/>\nworthwhile organizations and movements have this as their guiding premise.&nbsp; One need only look at the work that<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mindandlife.org\/\">Mind and Life Institute<\/a> is doing to make <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/onecity\/2009\/08\/shopping-for-a-spiritual-practice---insight-meditation-retreat.html\">meditation<\/a> mainstream in the sciences,<br \/>\nor the work that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=3nwwKbM_vJc\">Jon Kabat-Zinn<\/a> has done with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.umassmed.edu\/cfm\/mbsr\/\">Mindfulness-Based Stress<br \/>\nReduction<\/a> technique, to see the far-reaching impact of making <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stephenbatchelor.org\/deepagnosticism.htm\">Buddhism secular<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\"><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">In fact, I&#8217;ve had many great conversations, for the&nbsp;<\/span><b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.buddhistgeekspodcast.com\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">Buddhist<br \/>\nGeeks Podcast<\/span><\/a><\/b><span style=\"font-weight:normal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">,<br \/>\nwith some of the leaders in this movement, including the founder of the Mind<br \/>\n&amp; Life Institute, <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/personallifemedia.com\/guests\/2166-adam-engle\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">Adam Engle<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:normal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">&nbsp;and Zen priest <\/span><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/personallifemedia.com\/guests\/2248-norman-fischer\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">Norman<br \/>\nFischer<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight:normal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">.&nbsp; Each of them has extremely good reasons<br \/>\nfor making dharma secular, and so it&#8217;s hard not to appreciate the work that<br \/>\nthey are doing.&nbsp; But still, I find<br \/>\nthere is something limited about that being the only<\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\"> or even main<br \/>\napproach that we take toward transmitting<br \/>\nDharma to the West.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><br \/>\n<\/i><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">But let me be clear about<br \/>\nwhat I mean when I say, &#8220;making Buddhism secular.&#8221; &nbsp;I mean, specifically, the attempt to strip away the cultural<br \/>\ntrappings of the tradition, while preserving and re-packaging the &#8220;essence&#8221; of<br \/>\nthe tradition (which usually has something to do with meditation practice).&nbsp; In the process the religious language<br \/>\nis jettisoned and new &#8220;less religious&#8221; language is used instead.&nbsp;&nbsp; Phrases like, &#8220;Buddhism is more a<br \/>\nscience than a religion&#8221; or &#8220;The core technology of Buddhism is meditation&#8221; are<br \/>\nindicators of the secular impulse.&nbsp;<br \/>\nThe problem is that Buddhism is a religion.&nbsp; And it&#8217;s a science.&nbsp;<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s more besides&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><b>Secularization is Sexy<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">Before I get into some of<br \/>\nthe problems I&#8217;ve noticing with the assumptions behind secularizing Buddhism, I&#8217;d<br \/>\nlike to acknowledge the very beneficial results of this movement.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>The main one seems to be that some of<br \/>\nthe wonderful meditation practices and perhaps some inkling of the models<br \/>\nbehind them, are able to enter more &#8220;mainstream culture&#8221;.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>I&#8217;ll get into why assuming that<br \/>\nmainstream Western culture is secular is a problem in a moment, but for the now<br \/>\nlet&#8217;s just assume that there are many people who are being exposed with these<br \/>\nsecular Buddhist practices who otherwise wouldn&#8217;t.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>That is a wonderful thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">Connected with that we see<br \/>\nthe field of &#8220;contemplative science&#8221; beginning to be validated, and a whole<br \/>\nhost of scientists making their careers out of that intersection.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>There are also many ways in which<br \/>\nBuddhist-based <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/06\/16\/us\/16mindful.html\">meditation practices<\/a> are making their way into educational<br \/>\ncontexts<\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>So, it must be acknowledged that there<br \/>\nare very real benefits coming online from some of these movements, and those<br \/>\nshould continue.<span>&nbsp; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><b>Is the West Really<br \/>\nSecular?<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">And now, some of my larger<br \/>\nconcerns.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>One is that we assume<br \/>\nthat mainstream Western culture really is secular.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Has anyone noticed that in fact, we have an incredibly<br \/>\nReligious culture?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It&#8217;s a little<br \/>\nless so in some parts of Europe, but in America nearly %85 people self-identify<br \/>\nwith a religious tradition.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Does<br \/>\nthat make us a secular society or a highly religious one?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">And let&#8217;s not confuse the<br \/>\nseparation of Church in our political process&#8211;which incidentally was designed<br \/>\nto support evangelical Christians who were being persecuted, not atheists who<br \/>\nwere afraid of religion corrupting the government&#8211;with having a secular<br \/>\nsociety.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>We have a governmental<br \/>\nprocess that tries its best not to be influenced by one particular religious<br \/>\ntradition, but we have a country full of religious people who actively<br \/>\nparticipate in governance.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">And then there&#8217;s this strange<br \/>\nidea that there really exists a strong dichotomy between science and religion,<br \/>\nand that for something to be scientific it can&#8217;t possibly be religious (and<br \/>\nvice versa).<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But is that actually<br \/>\nthe case, and do we really need to strip anything that resembles &#8220;religion&#8221; out<br \/>\nof Buddhism for our culture to be able to tolerate it?<span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><b>Ouch, Those Are My Roots!<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><b><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif;font-weight: normal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">The other problem with the<br \/>\nsecular approach is that it often, in an attempt to distance itself from &#8220;Buddhism<br \/>\nas a religion&#8221;, strips away the historical significance of the Buddhist<br \/>\ntradition.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>If you&#8217;ve spent anytime<br \/>\nstudying the history of Buddhism, you&#8217;d see pretty quickly that it is an<br \/>\nancient <i>and<\/i><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"> constantly evolving<br \/>\nreligious tradition.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It has a<br \/>\nseries of both practices and beliefs that have spread and mixed with many other<br \/>\ninfluences.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Buddhism as it entered<br \/>\nTibet from India melded and mixed with the Shamanistic Bon tradition<br \/>\nthere.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>As it entered China it<br \/>\nmixed with Confusionist and Taoist influences, and now as it enters America it<br \/>\nis mixing with our scientific culture and strange beliefs about the extreme<br \/>\ndifference between religion and science.<span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">The problem with not seeing<br \/>\nhow Buddhism has evolved, and in not seeing ourselves as a part of Buddhism&#8217;s<br \/>\nevolution, is that we can believe we are somehow the holders of the &#8220;essence&#8221;<br \/>\nof Buddhism.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>But what is the<br \/>\nessence stripped from the practices, realizations, models, and people who have<br \/>\ncontributed to this living tradition?<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Is there really such a thing?<span>&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>Could it be that the whole idea of there being an essence to Buddhism<br \/>\nthat is distinct from it&#8217;s extraneous forms&#8211;those forms that are so irrelevant<br \/>\nthat we can simply ignore them or dump them&#8211;is coming from a set of cultural<br \/>\nassumptions that exist here in this place and time? <span>&nbsp;<\/span>We need to recognize that possibility, and see that there is<br \/>\na kind of violence in trying to strip something from its historical roots, and also<br \/>\na kind of arrogance in thinking that we can even do that successfully.<span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><b>Some Questions Moving<br \/>\nForward<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">Some questions that I would<br \/>\nask myself and all those who consider themselves influenced by the Buddhist<br \/>\ntradition:<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Are we so embarrassed<br \/>\nby certain components of Buddhism&#8211;the adherence to strict moral codes, the<br \/>\nmagical and mythical pantheon of Buddhist cosmology, the metaphysics of enlightenment,<br \/>\netc.&#8211;that we feel the need to throw them all out without further<br \/>\ndiscourse?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Or, can we hold the<br \/>\npain of knowing that all the amazing teachings that come out of the Buddhist<br \/>\ntradition also come with things that we might not like or understand?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And if we acknowledge that, might it<br \/>\nmean that each of us has to grapple with the past, present, and future of<br \/>\nBuddhism and its relationship to our lives?<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Can we really trust that things like the Mindfulness Based<br \/>\nStress Reduction movement are carrying the full potential of the Buddhist<br \/>\ntradition forward? <span>&nbsp;<\/span>Is it that by<br \/>\nsecularizing Buddhism we are running the very real potential of losing<br \/>\nsomething of incredible importance, while trying to ditch what we consider the &#8220;non-essential&#8221;?<span>&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\">These are questions that I continue<br \/>\nto ponder, being both a lover of the wisdom that&#8217;s carried through the Buddhist<br \/>\ntradition and a lover of innovation and the new forms by which that wisdom can<br \/>\nbe carried.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>My intuition is that<br \/>\nboth can be honored&#8211; tradition and innovation&#8211;but not if either one is valued<br \/>\nat the expense of the other.<span>&nbsp; <\/span>And<br \/>\ncertainly not if we don&#8217;t ask ourselves these hard questions.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Vince Horn<\/b> lives as a modern monk. He spends part of his<br \/>\nyear in silence, meditating, introspecting, and developing spiritually. The<br \/>\nrest of the time he spends engaged in the world, where he produces and hosts<br \/>\nthe popular show, Buddhist Geeks, works in the production department of the spiritual publishing company <a href=\"http:\/\/www.soundstrue.com\">Sounds True<\/a>, and writes for various publications&#8211;including on his personal blog <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vincenthorn.com\">Numinous Nonsense<\/a>&#8211;and enjoys living in  Boulder, Colorado with his wife Emily.<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Guest Post for the One City Blog&nbsp;by Vince Horn of Buddhist Geeks&nbsp;(Full Bio Below). 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