{"id":685,"date":"2009-07-03T15:26:25","date_gmt":"2009-07-03T15:26:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/onecity\/2009\/07\/would-sid-ever-bartend-buddhism-bars-and-depression.html"},"modified":"2009-07-03T15:26:25","modified_gmt":"2009-07-03T15:26:25","slug":"would-sid-ever-bartend-buddhism-bars-and-depression","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/onecity\/2009\/07\/would-sid-ever-bartend-buddhism-bars-and-depression.html","title":{"rendered":"Would Sid ever bartend? Buddhism, bars, and depression"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"friends.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/124\/import\/friends.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-none\" width=\"473\" height=\"354\" \/><\/span><br \/>Not only would Sid bartend but he would also play in fountains with umbrellas<\/p>\n<p><b>What would Sid do?<\/b><br \/>Before Siddhartha Gautama attained enlightenment at age 35 he was a<br \/>\nconfused twenty and thirty-something looking to learn how to live a<br \/>\nspiritual life. He had an overbearing dad, expectations for what he was<br \/>\nsupposed to <span class=\"il\">do<\/span><br \/>\nwith his life, drinks were flowing, lutes were playing, and the<br \/>\nwomen were all about him. Some called him L.L. Cool S. I imagine<br \/>\nclose friends just referred to him as Sid. <\/p>\n<p>Many people look to Siddhartha as an example of someone who attained nirvana, a buddha. But here we look at a younger <span class=\"il\">Sid<\/span><br \/>\nas a confused guy struggling with his daily life. What would he do as a<br \/>\nyoung person trying to find love, cheap drinks, and fun in a city like<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/newyorkisridiculous.blogspot.com\/\">New York<\/a>? We all make mistakes on our spiritual journey; here is where<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re discussed.<\/p>\n<p>Each week I&#8217;ll take on a new question and<br \/>\ngive some advice based on what I think Sid, a confused guy working on<br \/>\nhis spiritual life in a world of major distraction, would do. Because<br \/>\nlet&#8217;s face it, you and I are Sid. <\/p>\n<p><b><i>Have a question for this weekly column? E-mail it <a href=\"mailto:lodrorinzler@gmail.com\">here<\/a> and I&#8217;ll probably get to it!<br \/><\/i><\/b><br \/>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>Q: I&#8217;m a bartender and I feel like when I work all I&#8217;m doing is feeding<br \/>\ndepressed or lonely people drinks. It brings me down too. Would Sid<br \/>\never be a bartender? <\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<br \/>When Sid became a buddha he laid out the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thebigview.com\/buddhism\/eightfoldpath.html\">eightfold path to enlightenment<\/a><br \/>\nwhich included Right Livelihood. In brief it refers to being employed<br \/>\nin a legal and peaceful way. What &#8220;peaceful&#8221; is may be up to our<br \/>\ninterpretation. However, if we wanted to get specific there are five<br \/>\ntraditional aspects to Right Livelihood:<\/p>\n<p>1) you can&#8217;t deal in living beings, i.e. prostitution, raising animals for slaughter, slavery, etc<br \/>2) you can&#8217;t make money selling weapons. I&#8217;m not sure if this includes nun-chucks but hopefully not because those are awesome. <br \/>3) you can&#8217;t make money selling poison<br \/>4) or intoxicants <br \/>5) or meat<\/p>\n<p>Wait<br \/>\na minute! You can&#8217;t make money off of selling meat? So if we want to be<br \/>\nstrict here not only can you not be an exterminator or bartender or<br \/>\nbutcher but you can&#8217;t even work in a deli. I personally take offense as<br \/>\nmy ancestors were butchers: the &#8220;rinz&#8221; in &#8220;Rinzler&#8221; apparently is a<br \/>\nword for &#8220;butcher&#8221; in the old country. And yes, if you put that<br \/>\ntogether with my Tibetan first name it does mean &#8220;Butcher of<br \/>\nIntellect.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Anyway the point I&#8217;m trying to make is that we can<br \/>\nget pretty carried away with what we should or should not do for a<br \/>\nliving. Not only can you not work in a deli but some<br \/>\nstories of the Buddha imply you can&#8217;t even be an actor or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.accesstoinsight.org\/ptf\/dhamma\/sacca\/sacca4\/samma-ajivo\/index.html\">you will be reborn in the hell of<br \/>\nlaughter realm<\/a>. Which, incidentally, I interpret as the live studio audience for <i>Friends<\/i>. <\/p>\n<p>The<br \/>\nbottom line as I understand it is that Right Livelihood means that we<br \/>\ndo not cause harm to others or ourselves. On one hand, yes, if you&#8217;re<br \/>\nbummed out at work then it&#8217;s probably not for you. Go find work that<br \/>\nyou find meaningful. On the other hand, bartending itself is not a<br \/>\nproblem in my mind, assuming you are encouraging Right Drinking<br \/>\n(copyright!). <\/p>\n<p>To answer your question I&#8217;d like to say yes. I<br \/>\nthink if Sid were here with us he might have<br \/>\nmoved out of his dad&#8217;s palace and would be couch-surfing until he<br \/>\nlanded a<br \/>\njob to pay for what can at times be a pretty expensive spiritual path.<br \/>\nIf offered a bartending gig I think he would accept and make the most<br \/>\nof it. Here&#8217;s how:<\/p>\n<p>1)<br \/>\nDon&#8217;t aim to sell the most liquor to get the most tips. People tip when<br \/>\nthey feel respected and enjoy the bartender&#8217;s company. Serve what is<br \/>\nreasonable and, I believe, it&#8217;s your prerogative\/responsibility to see<br \/>\nwhen someone has had too much to drink and cut them off. <\/p>\n<p>2)<br \/>\nNot everyone at a bar is depressed or lonely. Some people go out to<br \/>\ncelebrate. Others to catch up with friends. We can&#8217;t assume another<br \/>\nbeing&#8217;s motivation in general so be open to your customers and their<br \/>\nemotional states. Which brings us to the key point&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>3) Offer<br \/>\nyour heart to those patrons you encounter. You may see 100 different<br \/>\npeople in a night but you could consider it a practice to connect with<br \/>\nas many of them as possible in a genuine way.<\/p>\n<p>4) Part of that is<br \/>\nlistening. Really listening. It&#8217;s an old cliche that people will pour<br \/>\ntheir heart out to a bartender but if someone does that it&#8217;s such a<br \/>\nrare gift to be spacious and accommodating. And probably one that that<br \/>\nperson needs if they are talking to a stranger.<\/p>\n<p>We all have jobs<br \/>\nto which we could apply these principles of watchfulness,<br \/>\ninquisitiveness, being open-hearted, and listening fully. We also all<br \/>\nhave jobs that we may feel good about but have a negative effect<br \/>\nsomewhere, be it on the environment when we travel by plane or on<br \/>\nAmerica&#8217;s economy if our company outsources work overseas. I would love<br \/>\nto hear from someone who doesn&#8217;t have at least one aspect of their job<br \/>\nnegatively effect someone in some way.<\/p>\n<p>So yes, Sid might bartend<br \/>\nbut in a way that does not encourage harm. It&#8217;s tricky work as you&#8217;re<br \/>\nnever 100% sure how much someone has had to drink, where they are<br \/>\ncoming from, and so on. I fully acknowledge that. However, I would<br \/>\nprefer my bartender to be someone engaging the principles of<br \/>\nmindfulness and compassion, wouldn&#8217;t you? Part of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shambhala.org\/teachings\/view.php?id=51\">bodhisattva-warrior&#8217;s<\/a><br \/>\nvow is to go where they are most needed. If you really are serving<br \/>\ndepressed and lonely people don&#8217;t they need to see some of that<br \/>\nmindfulness and compassion? <\/p>\n<p>I wish you lots of luck. Right<br \/>\nLivelihood means so many things to so many people; you need to figure<br \/>\nout what it means to you. But remember, it&#8217;s not exactly what you do<br \/>\nfor a living but what you do while you&#8217;re doing it. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not only would Sid bartend but he would also play in fountains with umbrellas What would Sid do?Before Siddhartha Gautama attained enlightenment at age 35 he was a confused twenty and thirty-something looking to learn how to live a spiritual life. 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