{"id":574,"date":"2009-05-11T15:49:11","date_gmt":"2009-05-11T15:49:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/onecity\/2009\/05\/podcastwisdom-of-no-exit-with-jessica-rasp.html"},"modified":"2009-05-11T15:49:11","modified_gmt":"2009-05-11T15:49:11","slug":"podcastwisdom-of-no-exit-with-jessica-rasp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/onecity\/2009\/05\/podcastwisdom-of-no-exit-with-jessica-rasp.html","title":{"rendered":"Podcast “Wisdom of No Exit” with Jessica Rasp"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Pema_Uncertainty_small.jpg\"<\/span>The topic for our open Monday discussions this month all center around Pema Chodron’s book Comfortable with Uncertainty<\/a>.  Jessica Rasp recently led a class on “The Wisdom of No Exit” and kicked things off with an except from a great 1994 interview between Leonard Cohen<\/a> and the Shambala Sun.<\/p>\n

“…there is the consolation of no exit, the consolation that this
\nis what you’re stuck with. Rather than the consolation of healing the
\nwound, of finding the right kind of medical attention or the right kind
\nof religion, there is a certain wisdom of no exit: this is our human
\npredicament and the only consolation is embracing it…(continued below)”<\/p>\n

Click to Download the podcast<\/a>, get a full list of podcasts<\/a> or subscribe via iTunes<\/a>.<\/p>\n

(Continue reading for the full except from the Leonard Cohen Interview)<\/p>\n

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 “The first reality is that there is a wound and there is
\nsuffering, a deep sense of unsatisfactoriness with life. There is no
\nquestion about it. The Buddhist theology presents it as the first noble
\ntruth. We live in a world that is not perfectible, a world that always
\npresents you with a sense of something undone, something missing,
\nsomething hurting, something irritating. From that minor sense of
\ndiscomfort to torture and poverty and murder, we live in that kind of
\nuniverse. The wound that does not heal – this human predicament is a
\npredicament that does not perfect itself.<\/div>\n
 <\/div>\n
But there is the consolation of no exit, the consolation that this
\nis what you’re stuck with. Rather than the consolation of healing the
\nwound, of finding the right kind of medical attention or the right kind
\nof religion, there is a certain wisdom of no exit: this is our human
\npredicament and the only consolation is embracing it. It is our
\nsituation, and the only consolation is the full embrace of that reality.<\/div>\n
 <\/i><\/div>\n
What about love, though?<\/i><\/div>\n
 <\/div>\n
I believe we know that love is a terrible wound itself, and that
\nit presents a bewildering landscape to stumble over. Love is a fire: it
\nburns everyone, it disfigures everyone…<\/div>\n
 <\/div>\n
I think in people’s hearts they understand that the heart is
\ncooking like shish kabob in your breast, and no matter what you do, the
\npassions come and go and they sear you, they burn you. If it’s not your
\nlover, it’s your children; if it’s not your children, it’s your job; if
\nit’s not your job, it’s growing old; if it’s not growing old, it’s
\ngetting sick. This predicament cannot be resolved. That is the wound
\nthat does not heal, and rather than approach it from the point of view
\nof stitching or cauterizing it, there is a kind of wisdom of living
\nwith the wound.<\/div>\n
 <\/div>\n
Then what about compassion?<\/span><\/div>\n
 <\/i><\/div>\n
You know, we come up with all kinds of things, but still the wound
\ndoes not heal, still the reality is suffering. We come up with all
\nkinds of new drugs, all kinds of new approaches. Yes, there are all
\nkinds of human decencies to embrace, and we should really try to be
\nnice to one another, but nothing dissolves this sense of irritation and
\nunsatisfactoriness that we all feel. Nobody gets over that.”  – Exceprt from From 1994 Interview with Shambala Sun. 
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