{"id":814,"date":"2009-07-06T04:01:55","date_gmt":"2009-07-06T04:01:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2009\/07\/missional-and-formational-in-john-15-part-1.html"},"modified":"2009-07-06T04:01:55","modified_gmt":"2009-07-06T04:01:55","slug":"missional-and-formational-in-john-15-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2009\/07\/missional-and-formational-in-john-15-part-1.html","title":{"rendered":"Missional and Formational in John 15, Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Part 8 of series: <em>Missional and Formational?<br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/missionalandformational.htm#jul609\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/missionalandformational.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><br \/>\nToday, I want to examine a text in the Gospel of John that is profoundly missional and formational. It shows that you can\u2019t have one without the other. Moreover, this passage reveals crucial elements of what it means to be missional and formational disciples of Jesus.<br \/>\n<strong>Remaining in the Vine<\/strong><br \/>\nHere is the first part of John 15, a discourse of Jesus with his disciples shortly before his Passion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn\u2019t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.<br \/>\n\u201cYes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing. Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned. But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted! When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples. This brings great glory to my Father.\u201d (John 15:1-8)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In this passage, Jesus speaks of the \u201cformation\u201d of the branches of the grapevine. He is this vine and we, his disciples, are the branches. The missional dimension of this text is developed through the metaphor of fruitfulness. Jesus\u2019 Heavenly Father is the gardener who \u201ccuts off every branch of mine that doesn\u2019t produce fruit\u201d (15:2). Implication: God wants us to be fruitful for his kingdom. In fact, we are supposed to \u201cproduce much fruit\u201d (15:8). This is our missional calling, and the mark of true discipleship (15:8).<br \/>\nSo how are we to bear fruit, even much fruit? Now we get to the formational dimension of discipleship. We do so by \u201cremaining\u201d in the vine, in Jesus. The verb translated as \u201cremain\u201d (<em>meno<\/em> in Greek) means \u201cto remain, to abide, to make one\u2019s home.\u201d Thus, we will fulfill our mission to bear fruit for the kingdom only when we are attached to and remain connected to Jesus. Once again, we see that the formational aspect of the Christian life is essentially relational. We are formed for fruitfulness when we are connected to Jesus, drawing our nutrients from him.<br \/>\nIn particular, we are nourished by Jesus\u2019 teaching, by his words. He says, \u201cBut if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted!\u201d (15:7). Our relationship with Jesus isn\u2019t simply some subjective experience or even some objective spiritual connection. It is also a matter of receiving his teaching and letting it \u201cremain\u201d in us. We will be shaped for the mission of Jesus by his truth as it makes a home in us, change our vision and values. (Photo below: pruned grape vines . . . not very attractive)<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/..\/..\/images\/grape-vines-pruned-7.jpg\" height=\"284\" width=\"504\" \/><br \/>\nThe Christian life is simply one of abiding in Jesus, letting his words abide in us, and bearing much fruit. There is also the pruning part of this passage . . . not my favorite part, by the way. Jesus says that his Father is the gardener who not only cuts off unfruitful branches, but also \u201cprunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more\u201d (15:2). When gardeners prune a plant, they are literally shaping that plant, deciding which branches to take away and which to leave. They are pruning with a vision for what the plant will become. They are forming the plant for maximum fruitfulness and\/or beauty.<br \/>\nI\u2019ve done a bit of gardening in my life, and I don\u2019t like pruning, not one bit. Oh, it isn\u2019t bad to cut off truly dead branches. But usually pruning involves cutting back live branches, taking away beautiful. Usually, the plant I begin to prune looks quite fine. When I\u2019m finished, it is downright ugly. I often feel rather sad when I\u2019m done with a pruning job, even though I know it\u2019s necessary for the health and fruitfulness of many plants.<br \/>\nI like being pruned even less than I like pruning, however. In my experience, God\u2019s pruning is rarely like a haircut, painless with immediately positive results. It\u2019s more like what happens with plants. God takes away, often with some pain on my part, aspects of my life that have been fruitful. Sometimes I can\u2019t see why God is doing this to me. Sometimes I feel angry with him. Sometimes I feel afraid or sad. But, in retrospect, I can see how God\u2019s pruning helps me to be more fruitful for him.<br \/>\nI want to share an example of how God has been pruning me, but this post is going on a little long, so I\u2019ll save it for tomorrow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 8 of series: Missional and Formational? Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series Today, I want to examine a text in the Gospel of John that is profoundly missional and formational. It shows that you can\u2019t have one without the other. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. Contacting Mark: You can reach Mark at: E-mail: mark@markdroberts.com mroberts@laitylodge.org Phone: Laity Lodge: (830) 792-1216 Address: Laity Lodge 719 Earl Garrett Kerrville, TX 78028","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/author\/mroberts"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/814","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/214"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=814"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/814\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=814"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=814"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=814"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}