{"id":756,"date":"2009-05-07T04:01:34","date_gmt":"2009-05-07T04:01:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2009\/05\/thin-places-an-introduction.html"},"modified":"2009-05-07T04:01:34","modified_gmt":"2009-05-07T04:01:34","slug":"thin-places-an-introduction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2009\/05\/thin-places-an-introduction.html","title":{"rendered":"Thin Places: An Introduction"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Part 1 of series: <em>Thin Places<br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/thinplaces.htm#may709\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/thinplaces.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><br \/>\nI first heard someone use the phrase \u201cthin place\u201d about fifteen years ago. She had become a devotee of Celtic spirituality, from which source she had discovered the label \u201cthin place.\u201d She was terribly enthusiastic about the idea of \u201cthin places,\u201d and proceeded to use this phrase to excess, which didn\u2019t add to my enthusiasm for the phrase. Nevertheless, she got me thinking about thin places for the first time.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/\/images\/cross-celtic-iona-4.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"384\" hspace=\"15\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"288\" \/>Celtic spirituality, by the way, has nothing to do with Boston\u2019s basketball team. The word \u201cCeltic\u201d (pronounced KEL-tik, in this case) refers to a variety of Christian devotion practiced in Ireland and Scotland since the fifth century A.D. In recent years, there has been a revival of interest in Celtic spirituality, partly because of the popularity of Celtic religious art, and partly because of the wide influence of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iona.org.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">Iona Community<\/a>, a Christian community on the Scottish island of, you guessed it, Iona. (Photo: A Celtic cross on the island of Iona.)<br \/>\nThe woman who introduced me to the phrase \u201cthin place\u201d explained its meaning. \u201cA thin place,\u201d she said, \u201cis a place where the boundary between heaven and earth is especially thin. It\u2019s a place where we can sense the divine more readily.\u201d I wondered why this person, a respected Christian leader, seemed to have a hard time speaking of relationship with God. \u201cThin place\u201d almost functioned as a circumlocution, a way getting around actually saying \u201cGod is especially present here.\u201d I also wondered about the whole idea of thin places. Are there such places? If so, why are they thin? Something about the whole notion of thin places made me nervous, theologically speaking, but I couldn\u2019t quite put my finger on the problem.<br \/>\nSince my first exposure to the phrase \u201cthin place,\u201d I\u2019ve probably heard it used five hundred times, maybe more. In certain Christian circles, Celtic Christianity has become wildly popular, and so has the use of \u201cthin place\u201d to describe places where people experience God (or \u201cthe divine,\u201d if you prefer). I have tended to resist this language, partly because of its trendy overuse, and partly because of my nagging discomfort about its meaning.<br \/>\nWell, in the irony of God\u2019s sovereignty, I\u2019ve ended up in a place that people love to identify as thin. In my eighteen months as Senior Director of Laity Lodge, I\u2019ve heard Laity Lodge described as a thin place probably a hundred times or more. When people say this, they mean to compliment Laity Lodge as an unusual place that fosters intimacy with God. For them, the barrier between earth and heaven does seem to become very thin at Laity Lodge. They have experienced God with more immediacy and intimacy when on retreat in the Frio River canyon than in their ordinary lives. In many cases, people have had life-transforming experiences at Laity Lodge through the presence and power of God\u2019s Spirit.<br \/>\nBeginning today, I want to reflect a bit on the notion of thin places (sometimes called thin spaces). I\u2019m not starting this blog series with a clear sense of where I\u2019m headed. And I\u2019m not planning to grind any particular axe. Rather, I want to think about the idea of thin places, especially in light of Scripture. I want to consider what makes a place thin, and how this description might be helpful (or not).<br \/>\nAs always I\u2019m interested in your comments. What do you think of the language of \u201cthin places\u201d? Have you ever experienced something you might call a thin place? Where? What happened?<br \/>\nStay tuned . . . .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 1 of series: Thin Places Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series I first heard someone use the phrase \u201cthin place\u201d about fifteen years ago. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. Contacting Mark: You can reach Mark at: E-mail: mark@markdroberts.com mroberts@laitylodge.org Phone: Laity Lodge: (830) 792-1216 Address: Laity Lodge 719 Earl Garrett Kerrville, TX 78028","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/author\/mroberts"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/756","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/214"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=756"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/756\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=756"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=756"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=756"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}