{"id":647,"date":"2009-01-13T03:01:02","date_gmt":"2009-01-13T03:01:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2009\/01\/more-ire-to-come.html"},"modified":"2009-01-13T03:01:02","modified_gmt":"2009-01-13T03:01:02","slug":"more-ire-to-come","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2009\/01\/more-ire-to-come.html","title":{"rendered":"More Ire to Come?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Part 1 of series: <em>Rick Warren, the Obama Inauguration, and Praying in Jesus&#8217; Name<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/prayingjesusnamewarren.htm#jan1309\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\nPermalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/prayingjesusnamewarren.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images\/warren-obama-5.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"190\" hspace=\"15\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"360\" \/>A recent AP news story featured this headline:<a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20081231\/ap_on_go_pr_wh\/rel_inauguration_prayer\" target=\"_blank\"> \u201cWarren\u2019s inauguration prayer could draw more ire.\u201d<\/a> The implied, earlier ire came when President-elect Barack Obama chose Rick Warren to give the invocation at the inauguration. In the eyes of many, Warren is downright evil for his support of California\u2019s Proposition 8, which upheld traditional marriage between one man and one woman. Thus Obama was slammed by many of his fellow liberals for choosing Warren to give the invocation. Warren himself was pilloried as a bigot, a hate-monger, a homophobe, and you-name-it. Of course he also caught heat from the right-wingers who were upset that he was blessing the inauguration of the liberal Barack Obama. (Photo: Obama and Warren at Saddleback church)<br \/>\nAn aside: Now it\u2019s time for the conservatives to be mad at Obama, who chose none other than the openly gay Episcopal bishop, Gene Robinson, to give an <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20090112\/ap_on_re_us\/gay_bishop_obama\" target=\"_blank\">invocation at an opening inauguration event<\/a>. One can only wonder what Robinson will pray, and to whom he\u2019ll address his prayers. In response to the Warren selection, Robinson had said, \u201cI&#8217;m all for Rick Warren being at the table. But we&#8217;re not talking about a discussion; we&#8217;re talking about putting someone up front and center at what will be the most watched inauguration in history, and asking his blessing on the nation. And the God that he&#8217;s praying to is not the God that I know.\u201d Once he was invited to share in the inauguration, however, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/hostednews\/ap\/article\/ALeqM5i9IHb9ymSfE-Lw2a_bgwLRfLhc7gD95LSHJG2\" target=\"_blank\">Robinson changed his tune<\/a>. Now he says, \u201cWhat it means for the nation is that Barack Obama is who he told us he was and intends to be, which is a person who unites us,&#8221; Robinson said. &#8220;The fact Rick Warren and I are each giving invocations during inauguration festivities just shows that the new president means to include all Americans.&#8221; Yes, including Christian pastors who pray to different Gods, apparently. But the now included Robinson is okay with that, I guess.<br \/>\nAt any rate, the \u201cmore ire\u201d predicted in the AP story has to do, not with Rick Warren\u2019s views on homosexuality, but rather with his way of praying. Specifically, there\u2019s a growing brouhaha over the question of whether or not Warren will pray \u201cin Jesus\u2019 name\u201d at the end of his invocation. Many theologically conservative Christians expect Warren to end his prayer by saying something like \u201cin Jesus\u2019 name.\u201d If he doesn\u2019t, they\u2019ll be quite miffed. On the other end of the spectrum, others will be upset if Warren mentions the house-dividing name of Jesus in his prayer, or otherwise points to Jesus in so many words. They see such public prayers as needing to be inclusive. For example, the forementioned <a href=\"http:\/\/www.concordmonitor.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20090112\/FRONTPAGE\/901120347\" target=\"_blank\">Bishop Robinson said<\/a> about his inaugural prayer: \u201cI will be careful not to be especially Christian in my prayer. This is a prayer for the whole nation.\u201d<br \/>\nSo far, Rick Warren has not said whether he will use \u201cin the name of Jesus\u201d or some circumlocution, like \u201cin the name of the famous guy from Nazareth.\u201d He has been circumspect, even cagy. When asked about whether he\u2019d pray in the name of Jesus, <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20081231\/ap_on_go_pr_wh\/rel_inauguration_prayer\" target=\"_blank\">Warren said<\/a>, \u201c&#8221;I&#8217;m a Christian pastor so I will pray the only kind of prayer I know how to pray. Prayers are not to be sermons, speeches, position statements nor political posturing. They are humble, personal appeals to God.&#8221; Well, that\u2019s certainly true, to a point. But when prayers are uttered in front of the world at presidential inaugurations, they are <em>in some sense<\/em> sermons, speeches, position statements, and political posturing, don\u2019t you think? Even if, in the end, Rick Warren\u2019s prayer is a genuine prayer, his own heart\u2019s communication with God, surely Warren is well aware that his prayer is more than just a \u201chumble, personal appeal to God.\u201d<br \/>\nOf course on the issue saying \u201cin Jesus\u2019 name,\u201d Warren can\u2019t win. No matter what he does, millions of people will be upset. And the press will, no doubt, be sure to interview a majority of those who are upset with Warren for whatever choice he makes. If we\u2019re lucky, they may interview Joseph Lowery, the 87-year-old African American Methodist pastor who will be giving the benediction at Obama\u2019s inauguration. Lowery, who is well known for his leadership in the civil rights movement, <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20081231\/ap_on_go_pr_wh\/rel_inauguration_prayer\" target=\"_blank\">said<\/a> \u201cwhatever religion the person represents, I think he has a right to be true to his religion.\u201d<br \/>\nI want to weigh in on this conversation, to offer some thoughts about praying in civic settings like inaugurations, and some theological observations about praying in Jesus\u2019 name. I\u2019ll tell you what I would do if I were in Rick Warren\u2019s position, and why. Then, I want to take a couple of days and focus on some of the past inauguration prayers by none other than Billy Graham. It will be interesting to see what Graham did when he prayed at inaugurations, which he did several times.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 1 of series: Rick Warren, the Obama Inauguration, and Praying in Jesus&#8217; Name Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series A recent AP news story featured this headline: \u201cWarren\u2019s inauguration prayer could draw more ire.\u201d The implied, earlier ire came when President-elect Barack Obama chose Rick Warren to give the invocation at&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":214,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-647","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-praying-in-jesuss-name"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>More Ire to Come? - Mark D. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. Contacting Mark: You can reach Mark at: E-mail: mark@markdroberts.com mroberts@laitylodge.org Phone: Laity Lodge: (830) 792-1216 Address: Laity Lodge 719 Earl Garrett Kerrville, TX 78028","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/author\/mroberts"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/647","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/214"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=647"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/647\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=647"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=647"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=647"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}