{"id":531,"date":"2008-09-09T01:01:02","date_gmt":"2008-09-09T01:01:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2008\/09\/why-not-just-leave-the-pcusa-part-4.html"},"modified":"2008-09-09T01:01:02","modified_gmt":"2008-09-09T01:01:02","slug":"why-not-just-leave-the-pcusa-part-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2008\/09\/why-not-just-leave-the-pcusa-part-4.html","title":{"rendered":"Why Not Just Leave the PC(USA)? Part 4"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Part 4 of series: <em>Why Not Just Leave the PC(USA)?<br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/whynotleave.htm#sep908\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/whynotleave.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><br \/>\nTo this point I\u2019ve given four answers to the question: Why don\u2019t you just leave the PC(USA)? They are:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1. I\u2019m not leaving the PC(USA) because my church is part of the PC(USA).<br \/>\n2. I\u2019m not leaving the PC(USA) because I have dear friends and partners in ministry in this denomination.<br \/>\n3. I\u2019m not leaving the PC(USA) because, as of this moment, I have not been required by the denomination to do something that is contrary to my conscience.<br \/>\n4. I\u2019m not leaving the PC(USA) because there is no perfect denomination or church.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My next reason is biblical and theological.<br \/>\n<strong>5. Scripture calls us to make \u201cevery effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace\u201d (Eph 4:3). <\/strong><br \/>\nThe New Testament letter known as Ephesians begins by revealing God\u2019s grand plan for the cosmos: \u201cto gather up all things in [Christ], things in heaven and things on earth\u201d (Eph 1:10). This bringing together of all things happens through Christ, whose death leads not only to individual salvation, but also to the unifying of divided people (Eph 2:1-22). The church, through its unity, becomes a demonstration to the cosmos that God\u2019s plan has been implemented and has begun to work (Eph 3:7-13). Thus, when Ephesians gets to practical matters of how to live out this theological vision, it\u2019s no surprise to read Paul\u2019s appeal:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all (Eph 4:1-6).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since the unity of the church is grounded, not only in the gospel, but also in the very nature of God, it is essential that Christians make every effort to maintain that unity. The English phrase \u201cmaking every effort\u201d translates the Greek participle <em>spoudazontes<\/em>, which means \u201cbeing eager or zealous, exerting great effort, or acting with haste.\u201d Unity is not something to be taken for granted or ignored. It is to be sought with eagerness and effort.<br \/>\nOne of the main reasons I remain a member of the PC(USA) in spite of years of unhappiness with many of our decisions and actions is that I believe I need to \u201cmake every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.\u201d I will confess that I am not always eager to preserve Presbyterian unity. But even when my zeal lags, I still exert effort in the cause of unity.<br \/>\nThe NRSV translation \u201cmaking every effort\u201d seems to imply that there would never be a time to step back from unity, since there would be no end to possible efforts on could make. This implication, however, does not capture the precise sense of the Greek verb <em>spoudazein<\/em>. Paul is not saying that there never is a time to back away from Christian unity. But such a time should be very unusual, and should come only after a significant effort to preserve unity.<br \/>\nOne of Paul\u2019s letters to the Corinthians provides an example of a time when unity in Christ should be broken, at least for a season. In 1 Corinthians 5, we learn of a believer who is engaging in sexual relations with his stepmother (5:1). The Corinthians, probably misconstruing what freedom in Christ is all about, have been boasting about this man\u2019s actions. Paul is incensed: \u201cShould you not rather have mourned, so that he who has done this would have been removed from among you?\u201d (5:2). The Corinthians are not to maintain the appearance of unity by tolerating the sinful behavior of the fornicating man. His persistent sin and unwillingness to repent has, in fact, fractured the unity of the Spirit. Breaking fellowship with the man is required, though with the hope that, in the end, he will be saved (5:5).<br \/>\nThe second letter of John provides another scenario in which Christians are not to remain in fellowship together. The context is one of false teaching. Specifically, \u201cmany deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh\u201d (v. 7). John counsels his church to respond in this way:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Everyone who does not abide in the teaching of Christ, but goes beyond it, does not have God; whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.\u00a0 Do not receive into the house or welcome anyone who comes to you and does not bring this teaching; for to welcome is to participate in the evil deeds of such a person (vv. 9-11).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, if a supposedly Christian teacher denies the incarnation of Christ, this person is not to be welcomed or received into the house (church). The church is not to tolerate heretical teaching on the central issues of faith. Heresy can lead to the breaking of tangible unity because, in a way, heresy itself shatters the unity of the Spirit.<br \/>\nSo how does all of this relate to the PC(USA)? There have been a few in the PC(USA) who have denied such basics as the deity of Christ. I heard one pastor do this very thing in a Presbytery meeting where he was involved in examining a candidate for ordination. This pastor was upset that the candidate has said so plainly that Jesus was God incarnate. At the time, I thought the examination was going in the wrong direction, and the candidate should have been examining the pastor! But the vast majority of Presbyterians, including those who are more liberal in their theology, profess such central doctrines as the deity and humanity of Christ and salvation through him alone. Moreover, the PC(USA)\u2019s Constitution is very clear about the basic doctrines of the Christian faith, and these are not being denied or debated by most people in the denomination. Thus, the \u201cmaking every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit\u201d command prevails over the \u201cdo not receive into the house command\u201d at this time, at least in my opinion.<br \/>\nIf, however, the PC(USA) were to vote in the next year to approve of the ordination of active gays and lesbians, or if our top judicial body endorses that which allow for such ordinations even without a change in the <em>Book of Order<\/em>, then we who are seeking to be faithful to Scripture may find ourselves in situation analogous to 1 Corinthians 5. We may end up in a church that approves of what Scripture identifies as sin. And if the denomination fails to exercise appropriate discipline with a person who sins and intends to continue, then we\u2019ll have to consider whether it\u2019s right for us to remain the denomination. In this case, the call to make every effort to maintain unity is in tension with the call to uphold biblical standards of righteousness. We\u2019re caught between our commitment to unity and our commitment to purity.<br \/>\nSome have argued that if the PC(USA) officially endorses what Scripture reveals as sinful, then the PC(USA) itself has broken the unity of the Spirit. There is no more unity to be maintained, or so the argument goes. I\u2019m not quite sure I buy this argument, though I do believe that it\u2019s possible for the denomination to do that which effectively severs our covenantal bonds. Some have argued that the actions of the 2008 General Assembly did, in fact, severely damage or even break our covenantal unity. (See, for example, a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyweb.com\/2008\/News\/BBP%20Theological%20Declaration%20-%20Final%20Draft.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">declaration<\/a> that is being presented to the Beaver-Butler Presbytery for a vote later this month. Thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyweb.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Presbyweb<\/a> for publishing this declaration.)<br \/>\nReturning to Ephesians 4, we see that part of preserving the unity of the Spirit involves \u201cbearing with one another in love\u201d (Eph 4:2). One might just as well translate the original Greek as \u201cputting up with one another in love.\u201d This \u201cputting up\u201d does not have to do with our response to those who sin against us. This requires the response of forgiveness. Rather, we put up with each other when they do things that bother us, things that get on our nerves, things that make us want to run in the other direction.<br \/>\nOne of the recent commentators on my blog made a helpful distinction, one he learned from Richard Lovelace. It\u2019s the distinction between \u201ctolerable stupidities\u201d and \u201cintolerable stupidities.\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/markdroberts.com\/?p=564#comment-10911\" target=\"_blank\">Thanks, Paul<\/a>.) I rather like that difference. Much of what has bugged me about the PC(USA) over the years has fallen into the \u201ctolerable stupidities\u201d category. But, increasingly, the tolerable seems to be morphing into the intolerable. So when a General Assembly votes to allow for the ordination of active gays, and when it votes to endorse lawsuits against a sister denomination, and when it encourages us to worship alongside Muslims as if our theological differences were minor, and when it votes to approve of those who reject our accepted church rules, I begin to wonder whether I should continue to \u201cbear with the PC(USA) in love.\u201d I wonder if the unity of the Spirit I am seeking to preserve still exists.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 4 of series: Why Not Just Leave the PC(USA)? Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series To this point I\u2019ve given four answers to the question: Why don\u2019t you just leave the PC(USA)? They are: 1. I\u2019m not leaving the PC(USA) because my church is part of the PC(USA). 2. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. 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