{"id":519,"date":"2008-08-26T01:01:21","date_gmt":"2008-08-26T01:01:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2008\/08\/we-interrupt-this-regularly-scheduled-blog-to-bring-you-a-special-report-presbyterian-exegesis-exam-changed.html"},"modified":"2008-08-26T01:01:21","modified_gmt":"2008-08-26T01:01:21","slug":"we-interrupt-this-regularly-scheduled-blog-to-bring-you-a-special-report-presbyterian-exegesis-exam-changed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2008\/08\/we-interrupt-this-regularly-scheduled-blog-to-bring-you-a-special-report-presbyterian-exegesis-exam-changed.html","title":{"rendered":"We Interrupt This Regularly Scheduled Blog to Bring You a Special Report: Presbyterian Exegesis Exam Changed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Part 15 of series: <em>The End of the Presbyterian Church USA? Revisited<br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/endofpcusa2008.htm#aug2608\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/endofpcusa2008.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><br \/>\nI just became aware of a couple of major changes in exegesis exams of the Presbyterian Church (USA). I want to offer some comments on these changes. This may seem like a detour from my series on <em>The End of the PCUSA? Revisited<\/em>, but, in fact, it is not. The changes in the grading of the exegesis exam illustrate why the PC(USA) is struggling to stay alive.<br \/>\nLet me offer a brief word of background for those who aren\u2019t familiar with PC(USA) exegesis exams. For decades, candidates for ordained pastoral ministry in the PC(USA) were have been required to pass an exegesis exam. This required careful, well-informed, accurate interpretation of an assigned biblical text in the original languages (Greek or Hebrew). Moreover, the candidate prepared a sermon outline, so as to demonstrate the ability to use scholarly exegesis in a practical, pastoral context.<br \/>\nWhen I took the exegesis exam in the 1980s, it was a four-hour \u201copen book\u201d exam. Candidates were allowed to use any tools or helps they could bring, including dictionaries, grammars, concordances, commentaries, etc. At some point during the last twenty years, the exam was changed to a \u201ctake home\u201d exam, in which candidates were given several days to finish it. I actually thought this was a positive change, since it did not place a premium on academic speed. Moreover, it provided candidates with a situation that was similar to that which they\u2019d face as pastors, with a few days to work on a sermon.<br \/>\nNow, the exam itself and the way it will be graded have been changed in a couple of crucial ways. Here\u2019s what I have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\/exams\/exegesisinfo.htm\" target=\"_blank\">learned from the PC(USA) website<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1. <strong>The demonstration of a working knowledge of Greek and\/or Hebrew will no longer be a requirement in order to complete the examination successfully.  <\/strong>When exams are graded, the readers will comment on the language facility which is demonstrated in the paper.  Such comments will be offered as guidance for Committees on Preparation for Ministry in determining readiness for ministry.<br \/>\n2. <strong>The wording of the instructions for the Biblical Exegesis examination have been amended.  <\/strong>Inquirers\/candidates will be asked to offer \u201ca faithful interpretation\u201d of the assigned text, rather than \u201cthe principal meaning\u201d of the text.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Why have these changes been made? The website explains that the committee in charge of the exams has completed a two-year evaluation process. Their goals in making the changes are stated as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is the sincere hope of the members of the PCCEC that these changes in the Biblical Exegesis examination will free students to focus on the larger issues of interpretation and practical application of Scripture, as well as to use the biblical languages as tools in that process.<br \/>\nWe believe that these changes will make it possible for the seminaries to do what they do well, namely to teach Greek and Hebrew and to train students in the art of exegesis, and not have the examination repeat an academic exercise that students have already experienced.  At the same time, the changes in the requirements of the exam will allow presbyteries, who know their inquirers\/candidates in a way the exam graders cannot, to use the exam as a tool in determining one\u2019s readiness for ministry, including a working knowledge of the biblical languages.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>My Reaction to These Changes<\/strong><br \/>\nYou will probably not be surprised to learn that I\u2019m not happy with these changes. I say this, in part, as one who has taught both Greek and Biblical Exegesis in seminaries, including the PC(USA)\u2019s own San Francisco Theological Seminary. But my unhappiness with the changes in the exegesis exam has less to do with my seminary teaching experience and more to do with what the changes imply about the PC(USA)\u2019s understanding of Scripture, its authority and interpretation.<br \/>\nFirst of all, notice what the committee hopes will happen because of the changes in the exam. They hope that the changes \u201cwill free students to focus on the larger issues of interpretation and application of Scripture, as well as to use the biblical languages as tools in that process.\u201d Now I\u2019m all for getting people to focus on the larger issues of interpretation and application of Scripture. But let\u2019s do a careful exegesis of the phrase: \u201cwill free students to focus.\u201d From what will students be freed? Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s implied. They&#8217;ll be freed from:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2022 From using original languages in their exegesis.<br \/>\n\u2022 From knowing what the original words really meant and<br \/>\nhow they were used.<br \/>\n\u2022 From trying to discern \u201cthe principal meaning\u201d of text.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words, students will not be expected to know what the original language of the text said, or what the original author of the text intended to communicate. They will be set free from these disciplines to offer simply \u201ca faithful interpretation\u201d of the text.<br \/>\nWow! What a watershed moment in the history of Presbyterianism! For the first time, as far as I know, we are officially rejecting a traditional understanding of biblical interpretation, one in which the text has a principal meaning, one that takes seriously the intentions of the author, and one that requires the student to wrestle with the original meaning on the way to creating some &#8220;faithful interpretation.&#8221; Now we are allowing \u201ca faithful interpretation\u201d of a text to suffice, even if this \u201cfaithful interpretation\u201d is not in sync with the original language or meaning of the passage. What a monumental move for the PC(USA)!<br \/>\nIf you know anything about the study of textual interpretation in the last few decades, you\u2019ll immediately recognize what\u2019s happening here as a postmodern view of textual meaning. The notion that a text has a primary meaning has been rejected by many in our day, in favor a more subjective approach. Some theorists would even say that the real meaning of text inheres, not in the text or in the intentions of the author, but in the responses of the reader.<br \/>\nI certainly recognize that different readers respond differently to the same text. Moreover, I acknowledge that I can learn a great deal from the way other people respond to a text. Further, I\u2019m willing to admit that my own readings, however much they are based on relatively objective criteria, like Greek or Hebrew definitions and grammar, are nevertheless impacted by my own subjective biases. A purely objective reading of a text is impossible.<br \/>\nBut, in spite of these admissions, I, along with the PC(USA), have always believed that it was still possible to get fairly close to \u201cthe principal meaning\u201d of a text. One way to access that meaning was by translating from the original language of the text. This was assumed by the PC(USA) . . . until now. Apparently, as a denomination we no longer believe that a principal meaning exists, or that it can be found even if it does exist, or that it matters even it exists and can be found. We\u2019re satisfied only with a faithful interpretation. And this opens up a Pandora\u2019s box of subjectivity.<br \/>\nI\u2019ll have more to say about this tomorrow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 15 of series: The End of the Presbyterian Church USA? Revisited Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series I just became aware of a couple of major changes in exegesis exams of the Presbyterian Church (USA). I want to offer some comments on these changes. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. Contacting Mark: You can reach Mark at: E-mail: mark@markdroberts.com mroberts@laitylodge.org Phone: Laity Lodge: (830) 792-1216 Address: Laity Lodge 719 Earl Garrett Kerrville, TX 78028","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/author\/mroberts"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/519","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/214"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=519"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/519\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=519"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=519"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=519"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}