{"id":464,"date":"2008-06-13T01:01:00","date_gmt":"2008-06-13T01:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2008\/06\/recommendation-8-choose-a-church-where-you-will-be-equipped-and-encouraged-to-live-out-your-life-as-minister-of-christ.html"},"modified":"2008-06-13T01:01:00","modified_gmt":"2008-06-13T01:01:00","slug":"recommendation-8-choose-a-church-where-you-will-be-equipped-and-encouraged-to-live-out-your-life-as-minister-of-christ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2008\/06\/recommendation-8-choose-a-church-where-you-will-be-equipped-and-encouraged-to-live-out-your-life-as-minister-of-christ.html","title":{"rendered":"Recommendation #8: Choose a church where you will be equipped and encouraged to live out your life as a minister of Christ."},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">Part 11 of series: <em>Choosing a Church: Some Recommendations<br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/choosingachurch.htm#jun1308\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/choosingachurch.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><br \/>\nYou might expect the Senior Director of <em>Laity<\/em> Lodge to say something like this. After all, I&#8217;m part of an organization committed to the ministry of the laity, the non-ordained people of God, if you will. But the idea that every Christian is called into the ministry of Christ didn&#8217;t originate with Howard Butt, Jr., the founder of Laity Lodge. Rather, it flows from the pages of Scripture.<br \/>\nYou can find the ministry of all of God&#8217;s people throughout the New Testament. It&#8217;s found in Acts 2, when the Holy Spirit is poured out upon the earliest believers in Jesus, an action that Peter interprets in light of the prophecy of Joel in the Old Testament:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;In the last days,&#8221; God says,<br \/>\n&#8220;I will pour out my Spirit upon all people.<br \/>\nYour sons and daughters will prophesy.<br \/>\nYour young men will see visions,<br \/>\nand your old men will dream dreams.<br \/>\nIn those days I will pour out my Spirit<br \/>\neven on my servants\u2014men and women alike\u2014<br \/>\nand they will prophesy.&#8221; (Acts 2:17-18 \/\/ Joel 2:28-29)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If the Spirit will now be poured out on all people, then all people will be empowered for ministry.<br \/>\nThe ministry of all of God&#8217;s people is found often in the letters of Paul. In 1 Corinthians 12-14, for example, Paul explains that the Holy Spirit empowers every Christian with special gifts, which are to be used for building up the church. We find no hint in this passage of professional clergy who do ministry and non-professional laity who receive it. Rather, all believers are to be actively involved in the ministry of Christ.<br \/>\nPaul&#8217;s letter to the Ephesians contains one of the clearest and most compelling biblical descriptions of the ministry of all of God&#8217;s people:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now these are the gifts Christ gave to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers. Their responsibility is to equip God\u2019s people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ. This will continue until we all come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God\u2019s Son that we will be mature in the Lord, measuring up to the full and complete standard of Christ. Then we will no longer be immature like children. We won\u2019t be tossed and blown about by every wind of new teaching. We will not be influenced when people try to trick us with lies so clever they sound like the truth. Instead, we will speak the truth in love, growing in every way more and more like Christ, who is the head of his body, the church. He makes the whole body fit together perfectly. As each part does its own special work, it helps the other parts grow, so that the whole body is healthy and growing and full of love. (Eph 4:11-16)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notice that all of God&#8217;s people are &#8220;to do his work and build up the church&#8221; (v. 12). More literally, this sentence says that the saints (<em>hagioi<\/em> in Greek, meaning all believers, not just special ones) are to be equipped &#8220;for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ.&#8221; Ministry is what all Christians do, and all are necessary for the church to be what God intends it to be. This is especially clear in verse 16, which underscores the necessary participation of each member in the body.<br \/>\nSo if every Christian is called into ministry, what do those we sometimes call &#8220;ministers&#8221; do? What is the role of pastors, priests, and preachers? Verse 11-12 show that these people have the responsibility of equipping the people of God for their ministry. The clergy are not to do all the ministry themselves. Rather, their particular ministry involves preparing the people in the church for their own ministry in the church and the world.<br \/>\nGiven what Scripture teaches about ministry, it follows that you should look for a church that believes this and does it. So, Recommendation #8 reads: <em>Choose a church where you will be equipped and encouraged to live out your life as a minister of Christ<\/em>. I realize, of course, that I&#8217;m swimming upstream here. Ordinarily, people look for churches that provide the ministries they value. They want &#8220;ministers&#8221; who do &#8220;ministry&#8221; well, preaching, praying, caring for the people, etc. And churches generally play into this vision of church as well, enticing potential new members with lists of need-meeting ministries and one or more professional ministers. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong for churches to have need-meeting ministries or professional ministers. But at the top of the list of ministries offered by churches should be equipping ordinary Christians for their ministries. And at the top of the job description of every pastor it should read: Equip members for ministry.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/..\/..\/images\/saddleback-church.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"253\" hspace=\"15\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"360\" \/>You might expect that megachurches are especially vulnerable to falling into the &#8220;we provide great ministries and ministers&#8221; trap. But, in my experience, megachurches often do a fine job teaching their members that they are to be ministries and then equipping them for ministry. This is one reason why churches become megachurches, actually. It&#8217;s often the smaller, more traditional churches that feature a traditional &#8220;pastor as minister and members as ministry receivers&#8221; model. This is one reason why such churches are not growing, and may well be struggling to stay alive. However, there are megachurches that are almost entirely based on the charisma and celebrity of the preacher, and there are smaller, traditional churches that are committed to equipping members for ministry. So don&#8217;t let the size or style of the church get in the way of an honest evaluation of the church&#8217;s commitment to the ministry of God&#8217;s people. (Photo: Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, where Rick Warren is pastor. This megachurch, with over 15,000 members, does an excellent job equipping and encouraging people for their ministries in the church and in the world.)<br \/>\nHow can you know if a church will equip and encourage you to live out your life as a minister of Christ? First, look for evidence of a biblical understanding of church and ministry on church websites and in other printed material. Do they talk about equipping people for ministry? Do they feature the ministries of God&#8217;s people?<br \/>\nSecond, listen to what you hear in worship services. Churches that value the ministry of God&#8217;s people will feature the ministry of God&#8217;s people in their corporate gatherings through lay witnesses, lay worship leaders, etc.<br \/>\nThird, see if the church you&#8217;re interested in offers any classes for training people in ministry. Some churches have intentional programs that train folks to find and do their ministries.<br \/>\nFourth, ask questions of church members, such as: Does this church encourage you to live as a minister of Christ in your daily life? If people can answer this question positively, chances are that you&#8217;ve found a church that truly values the ministry of God&#8217;s people.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 11 of series: Choosing a Church: Some Recommendations Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series You might expect the Senior Director of Laity Lodge to say something like this. After all, I&#8217;m part of an organization committed to the ministry of the laity, the non-ordained people of God, if you will. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. Contacting Mark: You can reach Mark at: E-mail: mark@markdroberts.com mroberts@laitylodge.org Phone: Laity Lodge: (830) 792-1216 Address: Laity Lodge 719 Earl Garrett Kerrville, TX 78028","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/author\/mroberts"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/464","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/214"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=464"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/464\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=464"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=464"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=464"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}