{"id":420,"date":"2008-04-24T01:01:21","date_gmt":"2008-04-24T01:01:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2008\/04\/excellent-discussion-on-the-problem-of-suffering.html"},"modified":"2008-04-24T01:01:21","modified_gmt":"2008-04-24T01:01:21","slug":"excellent-discussion-on-the-problem-of-suffering","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2008\/04\/excellent-discussion-on-the-problem-of-suffering.html","title":{"rendered":"Excellent Discussion on the Problem of Suffering"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/images\/ehrman-bart-5.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"270\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"360\" \/>Beliefnet.com is hosting a fine &#8220;blogalogue&#8221; between Bart Ehrman and N. T. Wright on the problem of suffering. Ehrman, as you may know, has published the most recent installment in his series that might be called: &#8220;A Popular Scholar&#8217;s Attempt to Get People to Stop Being Christians.&#8221; This book is: <em>God&#8217;s Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question&#8211;Why We Suffer<\/em>. I have not read this book yet, but, given what I&#8217;ve read of what Ehrman has said about it, it certainly doesn&#8217;t break any new ground. But Ehrman has the attention of the secular media (like NPR), and he&#8217;s an engaging writer (for a scholar). So <em>God&#8217;s Problem<\/em> will surely sell plenty of copies. (Photo: Bart Ehrman)<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/images\/wright-n-t-laity-5.jpg\" alt=\"N.T. Wright Laity Lodge\" align=\"right\" height=\"283\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"360\" \/>I can&#8217;t think of anyone I&#8217;d rather have &#8220;blogaloguing&#8221; with Erhman than N. T. Wright. In this conversation, Ehrman is way out of his league, theologicially. More importantly, however, Wright&#8217;s approach to suffering takes seriously the biblical narrative of salvation.<br \/>\nHere&#8217;s what we have so far in the &#8220;blogalogue&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/why-suffering-is-gods-problem.html\" target=\"_blank\">Ehrman: How the Problem of Pain Ruined My Faith<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/nt-wright-evil-unbelief-and-th.html\" target=\"_blank\">Wright: God&#8217;s Plan to Rescue Us<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/thanks-tom-for-a-thoughtful.html\" target=\"_blank\">Ehrman: What About the Actual Suffering?<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/blogalogue\/2008\/04\/thanks-bart-for-your-response.html\" target=\"_blank\">Wright: What It Looks Like When God Runs the World<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Beliefnet.com is hosting a fine &#8220;blogalogue&#8221; between Bart Ehrman and N. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. Contacting Mark: You can reach Mark at: E-mail: mark@markdroberts.com mroberts@laitylodge.org Phone: Laity Lodge: (830) 792-1216 Address: Laity Lodge 719 Earl Garrett Kerrville, TX 78028","url":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/author\/mroberts"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/420","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/214"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=420"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/420\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=420"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=420"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=420"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}