{"id":35,"date":"2007-05-04T03:01:37","date_gmt":"2007-05-04T03:01:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2007\/05\/58.html"},"modified":"2007-05-04T03:01:37","modified_gmt":"2007-05-04T03:01:37","slug":"58","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2007\/05\/58.html","title":{"rendered":"A Saintly Struggle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/sainthoodservice.htm#may407\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/sainthoodservice.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In my last post I explained how living &#8220;saintly&#8221; or &#8220;set apart&#8221; lives can lead to conflict, even suffering. I cited the example of Jim and Donna, whose unwillingness to let their son play soccer on Sunday morning alienated them from the coach and other parents. Today I&#8217;d like to consider yet another example, this one from the workplace.<br \/>\nSteve was on the fast track to success in his corporation. An executive with outstanding talent and integrity, he quickly climbed the ladder of success. Before long he was one of the corporate vice presidents, an up-and-comer touted for future greatness. Steve was also a Christian, a man who sought to live out his faith in every segment of his life, including his professional life. For a while Steve&#8217;s faith seemed to be an asset to his work since it undergirded his exceptional honesty and integrity.<br \/>\nBut then Steve became friends with Ronald. Ronald also worked for the corporation, not as an executive, but as a custodian. Steve didn&#8217;t see Ronald as a lackey, however, but as a fellow human being and, as it turned out, a brother in Christ. Casual interactions became deeper as they began to share their lives together. Their friendship was that of equals. So Steve thought nothing of it when he began taking Ronald to lunch in the executive dining room every now and then. All the vice presidents entertained personal friends in the dining room, and no one ever said anything about not allowing certain employees to eat there. But as soon as Steve started hosting Ronald for lunch, he perceived a subtle change in his work environment. Nobody said anything directly, at least not right away. Yet Steve&#8217;s peers seemed less interested in his input, and his superiors were less willing to hear his ideas.<br \/>\nFinally Steve confronted the company&#8217;s president with a direct question: &#8220;Why do I feel like an outsider around here? Have I done something wrong? Is there a problem with my work?&#8221;<br \/>\nHis boss was honest. &#8220;No, there is nothing wrong with your performance of the things on your job description. But there&#8217;s a problem with your attitude, with your sense of company values. Frankly, bringing that custodian into the dining room just isn&#8217;t acceptable. Your doing so shows very poor judgment.&#8221;<br \/>\nSteve responded with equal frankness. &#8220;But there is no rule that governs whom we have for lunch. And we talk in this company about the value of all employees. I don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s wrong with having my friend join me for lunch every once in a while, even if he&#8217;s a custodian for this firm.&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8220;That is the problem,&#8221; said the president. &#8220;You just don&#8217;t see it.&#8221;<br \/>\nWhen Steve tried to explain how his being a Christian led him to treat all people with dignity, he was told that his religious convictions belonged at home, not at work. End of conversation.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/images\/enron-sign-3.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"207\" hspace=\"5\" width=\"216\" \/>Before too long Steve was offered a new job in the company. He would maintain his official position and salary, but would no longer be in the main office. It was safer to move him out to the field, away from Ronald and the executive dining room. Steve declined to move primarily for family reasons. A few months later he was told to take a position at a distant location, with a loss of position and salary. The message was finally clear: Steve was no longer welcome at the company. No matter what his performance had been, he had committed the unforgivable sin of seeing a custodian through the lens of his faith, and not through the prejudice of the corporation. (Picture to the right: No, Steve did not work for Enron. But I wonder how the Enron story might have ended differently if Christians in the corporation had taken more risks to live out their faith at work.)<br \/>\nThe details of this story may be unique, but the general themes are experienced again and again when Christians try to be saints of God and successful employees. A woman I know lost her job when she wouldn&#8217;t obey her boss&#8217;s order to tell &#8220;a little white lie&#8221; in a business deal. A lawyer who tried to live according to God&#8217;s priorities for his life started working less than the 80-hour a week norm for his firm. Soon he was shunned as someone who &#8220;just isn&#8217;t pulling his weight around here.&#8221; As in first century, authentic sainthood can lead to suffering.<br \/>\nIn America, we are blessed with an exceptional quality of religious freedom. We will not be incarcerated for worshipping God or publicly proclaiming the Gospel. But if we dare to question openly the values of the cultural elites, we will soon find ourselves the target of sustained verbal persecution. When a prominent leader, for example, publicly suggests that homosexual behavior is sinful, that person is attacked as a &#8220;hate-monger&#8221; and a &#8220;homophobic extremist.&#8221; He is even accused of inciting hate crimes against gays and lesbians. When a Christian denomination makes a public commitment to evangelize Jews and Muslims, that denomination is denounced, not only by media pundits, but even by political leaders in the official meetings of state and national legislatures. As Yale law professor Stephen Carter demonstrated so persuasively in his book, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0385474989?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=markdrobertsc-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0385474989\" target=\"_blank\">The Culture of Disbelief<\/a><\/em>, Christians in America who express their faith in public will be written off by the cultural elite, if not libeled and blacklisted for their religious convictions.<br \/>\nOf course many Christians experience far more painful and extreme forms of suffering than being fired, or shunned, or attacked in public. Throughout history, and in many countries throughout the world today, Christians have been imprisoned, tortured, and killed for their faith. As we speak, believers in the Sudan are being sold into slavery because of their faith in Jesus Christ. A fellow Presbyterian pastor who serves in a Vietnamese congregation not too far from my own spent many years imprisoned in Vietnam, often locked in solitary confinement in a space so small he couldn&#8217;t even stretch out to sleep. The suffering of our brothers and sisters throughout the world needs to motivate both our prayers and our activism. Fellowship with our persecuted Christian family will touch our hearts, both inspiring our prayers for their deliverance and moving us to work for their freedom. Moreover, knowing that thousands of Christians are standing up for Christ in the midst of severe persecution emboldens us to endure whatever suffering we must face.<br \/>\nBut, even if our suffering does not compare in harshness to that experienced by some of our spiritual siblings, we should expect to face adversity as we live holy lives in an unholy world. If we never experience difficulties because we are Christians, then we are probably falling short in holiness or insulating ourselves completely from the world into which Christ has sent us. Suffering is not an avoidable accident, but an essential element of the genuine Christian life.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series In my last post I explained how living &#8220;saintly&#8221; or &#8220;set apart&#8221; lives can lead to conflict, even suffering. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. 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