{"id":327,"date":"2008-01-18T01:01:31","date_gmt":"2008-01-18T01:01:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2008\/01\/a-review-of-god-at-work-the-history-and-promise-of-the-faith-at-work-movement-by-david-w-miller-section-4.html"},"modified":"2008-01-18T01:01:31","modified_gmt":"2008-01-18T01:01:31","slug":"a-review-of-god-at-work-the-history-and-promise-of-the-faith-at-work-movement-by-david-w-miller-section-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2008\/01\/a-review-of-god-at-work-the-history-and-promise-of-the-faith-at-work-movement-by-david-w-miller-section-4.html","title":{"rendered":"A Review of God at Work: The History and Promise of the Faith at Work Movement by David W. Miller (Section 4)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\">In the series: <em>God at Work: A Review of the Book by David Miller<a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/godatwork.htm#jan1808\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\nPermalink for this post<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.markdroberts.com\/htmfiles\/resources\/godatwork.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Permalink for this series<\/a><\/em><br \/>\nYesterday I began examining David Miller&#8217;s recommendations for clergy in his fine book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0195314808?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=markdrobertsc-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0195314808\" target=\"_blank\"><em>God at Work<\/em><\/a>.<br \/>\nHere is Miller&#8217;s second recommendation for clergy:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>     Clergy who wish to equip their people to integrate faith and work will also need to develop a <em>ministry of public preaching and prayer that intentionally<\/em> and constructively addresses all dimensions of the Four E&#8217;s of ethics, evangelism, experience, and enrichment. Sermons and pastoral prayers play a vital theological role as part of a ministry of integration to those in the business world, helping people to discover their vocational identity, resist splitting the sacred from the secular, navigate difficult ethical questions, and gain comfort for personal needs and hurts. (p. 147)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Again, I agree with Miller, though I wouldn&#8217;t put it quite that way. It&#8217;s not so much that clergy need to &#8220;develop a ministry&#8221; as that they need to include within their ministry of preaching and prayer the issues that Miller raises. We&#8217;re not talking about starting new ministries here so much as about adapting and expanding existing ministries. If preachers and prayers began to think about the implications of their content for the workplace, then they&#8217;d find it natural to preach and pray about faith in this context.<br \/>\nMiller suggests three other ministries that clergy need to develop:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>a<em> ministry of teaching<\/em> that includes all dimensions of the Four E&#8217;s (p. 147);<br \/>\na <em>ministry of spiritual integration<\/em> that ensures that laity are trained to utilize personal prayer and devotional study in their daily lives (p. 148);<br \/>\na <em>ministry of gatherings<\/em> for businesspeople to help address the Four E&#8217;s (p. 148).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Again, I agree with the substance of Miller&#8217;s suggestions. I&#8217;d only quibble about the language. Clergy don&#8217;t so much need to develop new ministries as they do to expand and enrich their existing ministries.<br \/>\nIn fact, most pastors I know are deeply committed to helping their people live out their faith in the world. If they would only follow the first of Miller&#8217;s suggestions by visiting people in their workplaces and by listening to people talk about their work, then most pastors would more or less automatically begin to incorporate FAW emphases in their existing ministries.<br \/>\nI actually believe that lay people could do a great deal to advance this agenda. If they want to have their pastors equip them for their ministries in the workplace, then they need to say so. Part of what helped me to do this very thing was when people in my congregation would meet with me to share their challenges at work. I couldn&#8217;t help but become aware of this cutting edge of their discipleship. And, therefore, it wasn&#8217;t hard for me to incorporate such concerns in my preaching and praying. Of course I realize some pastors are not responsive to the needs of their people, and others might be threatened by workplace ministry because they feel inadequate to address it. But I think the strong majority of pastors would work hard to speak to the needs of their people. (Photo: The lay people of Irvine Presbyterian Church on my last Sunday.)<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/..\/..\/images\/ipc-worship2-7.jpg\" height=\"103\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"5\" width=\"504\" \/><br \/>\nIt may be, however, that many (most?) working people wouldn&#8217;t think to ask their pastors for help because they tend not to integrate their faith with their work. Hence we might find ourselves in a no-win cycle, in which pastors don&#8217;t help lay people to realize that their faith should be expressed in their workplaces and lay people don&#8217;t ask pastors for help because they don&#8217;t think to do it. Mutual inattention encourages more mutual inattention.<br \/>\nYet there is plenty of hope, I think, in that it doesn&#8217;t take a majority of a congregation to influence a pastor, or a year&#8217;s worth of preaching on FAW for a pastor to influence a congregation. Even one or two lay people who are willing to share their challenges and concerns with a pastor can make a tangible difference. And if a pastor begins on a fairly regular basis to speak of workplace discipleship, this can also make a tangible difference.<br \/>\nWhat&#8217;s the one major thing I would do differently if I were a pastor again? Actually, it wouldn&#8217;t be in the areas of preaching and prayer. Rather, I&#8217;d make a stronger effort to encourage lay people to tell their own stories: in worship services, in classes, in church publications, etc. The power of a lay witness cannot be understated here. If a teacher shares with others how he tries to live out his faith in the classroom, if a lawyer shares her struggles and victories with others, and so on throughout the professions, this would have a huge impact on the church, clergy and laity alike.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the series: God at Work: A Review of the Book by David Miller Permalink for this post \/ Permalink for this series Yesterday I began examining David Miller&#8217;s recommendations for clergy in his fine book, God at Work. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. 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