{"id":1417,"date":"2011-01-21T01:32:14","date_gmt":"2011-01-21T01:32:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2011\/01\/the-social-network-the-kings-speech-and-the-homosexuality-of-king-david.html"},"modified":"2011-01-21T01:32:14","modified_gmt":"2011-01-21T01:32:14","slug":"the-social-network-the-kings-speech-and-the-homosexuality-of-king-david","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2011\/01\/the-social-network-the-kings-speech-and-the-homosexuality-of-king-david.html","title":{"rendered":"The Social Network, The King&#8217;s Speech, and the &#8220;Homosexuality&#8221; of King David"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yes, there is a connection between these three topics. The connection is friendship. Please allow me to explain.<\/p>\n<form><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"social-network-poster-5.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/94\/import\/photos\/social-network-poster-5.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right;margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px\" height=\"550\" width=\"332\" \/><\/form>\n<p><i>The Social Network<\/i>, which recently won the Golden Globe award for the Best Motion Picture (Drama), tells the story of the founding of Facebook, the social networking website that now has 500 million uses. Or, one might say, the movie focuses on the legal battles surrounding the founding of Facebook. Or, more significantly, the film tells the ironic story of friendship. Why ironic? Because, on one level, <i>The Social Network<\/i> is all about Facebook, which is all about friends: having them (lots of them), connecting with them, etc. Yet, on another level, <i>The Social Network<\/i> paints a dreary picture of failed friendship. Former friends now interact only across the table in legal depositions as they sue and countersue. Genuine friendship has been replaced by drunken and drug-induced ecstasies and sexual intimacy without emotional intimacy or mutual commitment. To the extent that <i>The Social Network<\/i> truthfully depicts the values of today&#8217;s culture, it sounds the death knell for real friendship.<\/p>\n<p>Conversely, <i>The King&#8217;s Speech<\/i> artfully captures an extraordinary friendship between a king and a commoner. This movie, which won the 2010 Toronto International Film Festival People&#8217;s Choice award, tells the story of the relationship between Britain&#8217;s King George VI (who is also Prince Albert, Duke of York) and Lionel Logue, an uncredentialed speech therapist who tries to help the prince\/king overcome his stammering. In the context of this most unlikely relationship, the two men develop a deep, lasting friendship, in spite of the cultural forces that would disallow such mutual affection and commitment.<\/p>\n<p>What does this have to do with the homosexuality of King David? A few days ago, on January 9, 2011, BBC radio in England featured a program that was supposed to celebrate the 400th anniversary of the King James Version of the Bible. In the context of this program, the playwright, Howard Brenton, who said this about King David: &#8220;David is in love with Saul&#8217;s son Jonathan. To the secular reader, the story of David&#8217;s and Jonathan&#8217;s love is obviously homosexual, the only gay relationship in the Bible.&#8221; As you might expect this comment lit a firestorm of controversy. <\/p>\n<p>It is true that the Bible speaks of a powerful love between David and Jonathan, the prince of Israel. (Note the unexpected prince\/commoner friendship, not unlike The King&#8217;s Speech. When he knew Jonathan, David was not the king or from a royal family.) Jonathan &#8220;loved [David] more than his own soul&#8221; (1 Sam 18:1) and &#8220;took great delight in David&#8221; (1 Sam 19:1). As they realized that their friendship was coming to an end, David bowed before Jonathan and &#8220;they kissed each other, and wept with each other&#8221; (1 Sam 20:41). After Jonathan died, David said, &#8220;My brother Jonathan; greatly beloved were you to me; your love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women&#8221; (2 Sam 1:25).<\/p>\n<p>You can see why Howard Brenton would say, &#8220;To the secular reader, the story of David&#8217;s and Jonathan&#8217;s love is obviously homosexual.&#8221; In a sense I would agree with him, though the biblical evidence for their homosexuality is sorely lacking. The Hebrew word for the &#8220;love&#8221; between David and Jonathan, for example, is the same word that describes love within a family or the love of God. It was not uncommon in the culture of the Old Testament for men to kiss each other in obviously non-sexual contexts (such as Joseph&#8217;s reunion with his brothers; Gen 45:15). Meanwhile, the language for sexual intimacy, the language of knowing, does not get used for David and Jonathan. You only find that kind of thing if you project it into the text. Yet, if one does not pay attention to the cultural context of the biblical story, if one projects our cultural experience into the story, then one might very well see homosexuality in the relationship between David and Jonathan, such as Brenton does. <\/p>\n<p>What this points out, I believe, is not only that people tend to force their own values and wishes into their reading of Scripture. It also testifies to our impoverished understanding and experience of friendship, especially male friendship. In my radio interview on this subject with Hugh Hewitt, he rightly pointed out that men on the battlefield can develop deep, loving friendships. That surely helps to make sense of the relationship between David and Jonathan.<\/p>\n<p>But there is also the sad fact that, in our culture, if someone says a man loves a man, we assume this is a sexual relationship because we have so little experience of non-sexual loving friendship between men. Our secular culture just cannot conceive of deep love between men that isn&#8217;t homosexual. In fact, if <i>The Social Network<\/i> shows us something about the culture in which we live, and I believe it does in a striking way, then we are drowning in friendlessness even as we are adding hundreds of friends on Facebook. <\/p>\n<p>P.S. If you like this blog post, please click the &#8220;Like&#8221; button at the top of this column so you can tell your friends on Facebook. LOL \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hughhewitt.com\/blog\/\">Thanks to Hugh Hewitt for interviewing me<\/a> and giving me the opportunity to make the connection between <i>The Social Network<\/i>, <i>The King&#8217;s Speech<\/i>, and David&#8217;s &#8220;homosexuality.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yes, there is a connection between these three topics. The connection is friendship. Please allow me to explain. The Social Network, which recently won the Golden Globe award for the Best Motion Picture (Drama), tells the story of the founding of Facebook, the social networking website that now has 500 million uses. 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Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. 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