{"id":1105,"date":"2010-05-06T00:00:01","date_gmt":"2010-05-06T00:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2010\/05\/the-national-day-of-prayer-controversy-what-would-jesus-think-part-4.html"},"modified":"2010-05-06T00:00:01","modified_gmt":"2010-05-06T00:00:01","slug":"the-national-day-of-prayer-controversy-what-would-jesus-think-part-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/markdroberts\/2010\/05\/the-national-day-of-prayer-controversy-what-would-jesus-think-part-4.html","title":{"rendered":"The National Day of Prayer Controversy: What Would Jesus Think? Part 4"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;ve been following my blog for the last few days, you know I&#8217;ve been posting a variety of thoughts related to the National Day of Prayer, which is today, Thursday, May 6, 2010. Included among these thoughts has been an evaluation of a &#8220;religious case&#8221; for the separation of church and state, one that would oppose a government sponsored Day of Prayer. This case was proposed in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/id\/236904\">an article by <i>Newsweek<\/i> editor, Jon Meacham<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>In this article, Meacham credits Jesus with originating the separation of church and state. To support this claim, Meacham points to Jesus&#8217; refusal to be crowned as king, as well as his statement that his &#8220;kingdom is not of this world.&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/markdroberts\/2010\/05\/the-national-day-of-prayer-controversy-what-would-jesus-think-part-3.html\">Yesterday<\/a>, I examined in some depth the story in the Gospel of John of Jesus&#8217; saying &#8220;No&#8221; to those who wanted to make him king. Today I will consider his statement about the non-worldly nature of the kingdom and the relevance of this statement for us, including the National Day of Prayer. <\/p>\n<p><b>&#8220;My Kingdom is Not of This World&#8221;<br \/><\/b><br \/><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"pilate-inscription-4.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/94\/import\/photos\/pilate-inscription-4.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px;float: right\" height=\"420\" width=\"288\" \/><\/span>Jesus&#8217; claim, &#8220;My kingdom is not of this world,&#8221; came in the context of the &#8220;trial&#8221; that led to his crucifixion. In John 18, the Jewish officials who sought to have Jesus killed took him to Pontius Pilate, the Roman Prefect (that is, governor) of Judea. (Photo: This engraved stone was found in 1961. It refers to [Pont]ius Pilatus as [Praef]ectus Iudaeae or &#8220;Prefect of Judea.&#8221; Image courtesy of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.holylandphotos.org\/\">www.HolyLandPhotos.org<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>Pilate began to question Jesus by asking him &#8220;Are you the king of the Jews?&#8221; (18:33, NIV). Jesus answered, &#8220;Is that your own idea, or did others talk to you about me?&#8221; (18:34) Pilate replied, &#8220;Am I a Jew? . . . It was your people and your chief priests who handed you over to me. What is it you have done?&#8221; (18:35). Jesus said, <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place&#8221; (18:36)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The statement of Jesus translated here as &#8220;My kingdom is not of this world&#8221; is one of the most frequently misunderstood sentences of Scripture. For centuries, Christians and others have interpreted Jesus to mean: &#8220;My kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. My kingdom is heavenly, it has nothing to do with this life, only life after death.&#8221; This verse has been used to focus attention upon the afterlife and minimize the value of flourishing in this life. What Jesus was all about, we have been told, has to do with getting people to heaven, and that&#8217;s about it. <\/p>\n<p>But this theology, besides ignoring the vast biblical narrative, misses the sense of Jesus&#8217; simple statement. This can be explained, in part, on the basis of a mistranslation from the Greek of John into English (or a misunderstanding of the English translation, at any rate). The phrase &#8220;My kingdom is not of this world&#8221; renders the Greek <i>he basileia he eme ouk estin ek tou kosmou toutou<\/i> (18:36). There are two crucial translation issues here.<\/p>\n<p>First, the Greek word <i>basileia<\/i>, translated as &#8220;kingdom,&#8221; usually does not refer to the place where a king reigns. Rather, it points to the king&#8217;s power or authority or reign or rule. When Jesus speaks to Pilate of his <i>basileia<\/i>, he isn&#8217;t talking about the place where he is king (i.e., heaven). Rather, he is speaking of his royal authority. <\/p>\n<p>Second, the English phrase &#8220;is not of this world&#8221; is based on the Greek <i>ouk estin ek tou kosmou toutou<\/i>, which would be translated literally as &#8220;is not <i>from<\/i> this world.&#8221; Jesus was not speaking of his kingdom as existing someplace other than this world. Rather, he was saying that his kingly authority is not from this world. He was talking about the source of his sovereignty, not the location of its exercise. <\/p>\n<p>So, when Jesus spoke of the kingdom of God as being close at hand (Mark 1:15), or when he taught his disciples to pray for the kingdom to come and God&#8217;s will to be done &#8220;on earth as it in heaven&#8221; (Matt 6:10), Jesus was clearly implying that the location of his kingdom is on earth in addition to heaven. But the <i>source<\/i> of his royal authority was not earthly. He was not the king because of ancestry or military might or public acclaim. Rather, his royal authority came from God. <\/p>\n<p><b>Implications for the National Day of Prayer<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Jon Meacham refers to Jesus&#8217; saying about his kingdom being &#8220;not of this earth&#8221; without explaining how he understands &#8220;of this earth.&#8221; My guess is that Meacham rightly interprets Jesus&#8217; meaning, since he is well-versed in the New Testament and its historical\/cultural context.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Meacham&#8217;s &#8220;religious case&#8221; for the separation of church and state would find support in the &#8220;not <i>from<\/i> this world&#8221; sense that Jesus intended. The National Day of Prayer, in its current form, does indeed base its authority on this world, at least to an extent. It was instituted by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by the U.S. President. So, if one understands Jesus&#8217; statement about his kingdom as implying that the church should not derive authorization or support from the government, as Meacham appears to do without actually arguing the point, then followers of Jesus should be careful about basing their exercise of faith on the encouragement or authorization of the government. <\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s where things get pretty messy, however. Technically, the National Day of Prayer as endorsed by the government is not a Christian event. It is religious in the sense that it commends prayer to God, but without specifying the manner of prayer or the nature of the God to whom we are supposed to pray. The National Day of Prayer is not establishing any particular religion, but commending prayer in the broadest sense. Yet, the impetus for the National Day of Prayer did come from Christian quarters, and the National Day of Prayer Task Force, which organizes many of the events of the day, is an explicitly Christian body. Moreover, it is certainly true that some Christians see the government-authorized National Day of Prayer as an occasion to advance a Christian understanding of God and practice of prayer. Those who make this connection should, it seems to me, wrestle with whether this approach to prayer is consistent with Jesus&#8217; understanding of the kingdom of God, or not.<\/p>\n<p>Having said this, I do think that the leap from Jesus statement &#8220;My kingdom is not from this world&#8221; to a theology of church-state separation is quite a long one. Meacham seems to believe that the move from Jesus&#8217; understanding of the kingdom to our understanding of church-state relations in our time is an intuitive or obvious one. But I&#8217;m not so sure. He may well be right, but his position needs a lot more development. <\/p>\n<p>For me, the fact that people are gathering today to pray is fantastic. There is no doubt in my mind that our nation needs prayer. Our political leaders do. Our business leaders do. Our teachers and educational institutions do. Our armed forces do. Our families do. Our marriages do. Our churches do. Our national allies do. Our national enemies do. I do. You do. So I&#8217;m glad we are recognizing the National Day of Prayer today. And I would be glad for this whether or not it received the endorsement of the federal government.<\/p>\n<p>Surely we who believe that God answers prayer can and should gather to pray whether or not the Feds encourage us to do so. My hope, and, indeed, my prayer, is that our efforts not only will be heard by Almighty God, but also might encourage us to live today in the love, truth, and grace of God. Perhaps we who c<br \/>\nall out to God for peace might be encouraged to be peacemakers in our part of the world today. Peacemaking, after all, is also something commended by Jesus (Matt 5:9).<\/p>\n<p>Tomorrow, though the National Day of Prayer will be officially over, I want to consider other ways that the words and example of Jesus might impact our thinking about the National Day of Prayer.&nbsp; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;ve been following my blog for the last few days, you know I&#8217;ve been posting a variety of thoughts related to the National Day of Prayer, which is today, Thursday, May 6, 2010. 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Before his time at Irvine Pres, Mark served on the staff of the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood as Associate Pastor of Education. (Thanks to Janel Pahl for taking the photo to the right.) Mark studied at Harvard University, receiving a B.A. in Philosophy, an M.A. in the Study of Religion, and a Ph.D. in New Testament and Christian Origins. He has taught classes in New Testament for Fuller Theological Seminary and San Francisco Theological Seminary. Mark has written several books, including No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer (WaterBrook, 2005), Dare to Be True (WaterBrook, 2003), Jesus Revealed (WaterBrook, 2002), After \"I Believe\" (Baker, 2002), and Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther (Word, 1993). His most recent book is Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (Crossway, 2007). He is currently working on a commentary on Ephesians that will be published by Zondervan in 2014. Mark writes a devotional for The High Calling of Our Daily Work, a website associated with Laity Lodge. His \"Daily Reflections\" can be viewed online or sent as a daily email. If you wish to receive this email, just visit TheHighCalling.org and sign up. Mark serves on the editorial board of Worship Leader magazine, where he publishes articles and reviews, including his regular column \"Lyrical Poetry.\" Additionally, he has published dozens of articles in leading magazines and journals. He often speaks for churches and other Christian groups, and has been interviewed on over seventy-five radio programs nationwide. Mark is married to Linda, who is a Marriage and Family Therapist, a Spiritual Director, and a retreat speaker. They have two children, Nathan and Kara.For Publicity Photos and Bio Statements for Mark, please check here. Mark's Dossier Professional History: Senior Director and Scholar-in Residence, Laity Lodge, October 2007 to present. Senior Pastor Irvine Presbyterian Church, June 1991 to September 2007 Adjunct Assistant Professor Fuller Theological Seminary, 1994 to 2007. Courses: New Testament Theology and Exegesis. Adjunct Instructor San Francisco Theological Seminary, 1995 to 2001. Courses: New Testament Greek and Exegesis Associate Pastor of Education First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood, 1987-1991 Teaching Fellow Harvard University, 1980-1983 Education: Ph.D. in the Study of Religion. Harvard University, 1992. Area: New Testament and Christian Origins M.A. in the Study of Religion Harvard University, 1984. A.B. magna cum laude in Philosophy Harvard University, 1979. Phi Beta Kappa; Danforth Fellowship Books: Can We Trust the Gospels? Investigating the Reliability of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Crossway, 2007 No Holds Barred: Wrestling with God in Prayer. WaterBrook, 2005 Dare to Be True: Living in the Freedom of Complete Honesty. WaterBrook, 2003. Jesus Revealed: Know Him Better to Love Him Better. WaterBrook, 2002. After \"I Believe\": Experiencing Authentic Christian Living. Baker, 2002. Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther in the Communicator's Commentary Series. Word, 1993. 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