{"id":96,"date":"2008-11-16T11:50:43","date_gmt":"2008-11-16T11:50:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/lynnvsekulow\/2008\/11\/religion-does-not-equate-with.html"},"modified":"2008-11-16T11:50:43","modified_gmt":"2008-11-16T11:50:43","slug":"religion-does-not-equate-with","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lynnvsekulow\/2008\/11\/religion-does-not-equate-with.html","title":{"rendered":"Religion Does Not Equate With Politics, Economics and Culture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jay, I must say publicly what I told you privately after the oral argument in the Pleasant Grove City v. Summum argument.&nbsp; You did a very fine job.&nbsp; You also know, though, that I believe it was a great job defending an indefensible position.<\/p>\n<p>Several of the justices join you in one fundamental error: religious expression is not the same as expression on political, economic or cultural matters.&nbsp; How do we know this?&nbsp; It is right there in the framing of the First Amendment.&nbsp; &#8220;Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof&#8230;&#8221;.&nbsp; There is no comparable prohibition against &#8220;establishing&#8221; (as in preferring or promoting or endorsing) any other kind of activity.&nbsp; Indeed, we have elections where we the people decide what kind of&nbsp; secular &#8220;values&#8221; to embrace based on arguments of candidates.&nbsp; Should we &#8220;share the wealth&#8221;?&nbsp; Should we foster the wearing of flag pins?&nbsp; Should we embrace &#8220;English only&#8221; in our schools?<\/p>\n<p>So, of course, the government doesn&#8217;t have to add Ronald Reagan to Mount Rushmore or accept a &#8220;statute of tyranny&#8221;.&nbsp; When government &#8220;speaks&#8221; about best presidents or embraces the principle of liberty, it has every right to reject alternative views.&nbsp; However, it is supposed to be scrupulously neutral in regard to religion.&nbsp; If you are correct that Pleasant Grove City &#8220;selected&#8221; a religious message by accepting the Ten Commandments monument 36 years ago, then it violated a fundamental principle that we don&#8217;t let governments be selective about the religious views it adopts&#8211;choosing one while rejecting &#8220;competitors&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>As I was watching the argument, I did have many moments of doubt that I was on this planet and not on some alternate astral plane.&nbsp; Since the case had not been argued as an &#8220;Establishment Clause&#8221; case, the justices had to try to avoid that &#8220;elephant&#8221; in the room.&nbsp; This is all about a religious monument; it is not about a selection process for library books or pieces of art in a museum.&nbsp; Their analogies to such matters were strained to the breaking point.<\/p>\n<p>I hope the justices see the wisdom of rejecting the claims of both sides in this case and sending it back to trial on its proper ground: is this an unconstitutional endorsement of some religions and rejection of another.&nbsp; Frankly, I thought the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/11\/12\/opinion\/12wed1.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=Summum&amp;st=nyt\">New York Times<\/a> editorial board had it right when it noted: &#8220;The founders found this sort of religious preference so odious that they included a specific provision in the First Amendment prohibiting it&#8221;.&nbsp; ( I also appreciated that the paper praised the friend of the court brief filed by Americans United and the American Jewish Congress in this regard.)<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll see what you &#8220;hath wrought&#8221; sometime in the spring. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jay, I must say publicly what I told you privately after the oral argument in the Pleasant Grove City v. 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