{"id":11,"date":"2008-08-17T09:54:18","date_gmt":"2008-08-17T09:54:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/lynnvsekulow\/2008\/08\/saddleback-biased-questions-an.html"},"modified":"2008-08-17T09:54:18","modified_gmt":"2008-08-17T09:54:18","slug":"saddleback-biased-questions-an","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lynnvsekulow\/2008\/08\/saddleback-biased-questions-an.html","title":{"rendered":"Saddleback: Biased Questions and A Big Mistake"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s get to the big mistake first: Barack Obama should not have agreed to do this.&nbsp; If I were the Senator I&#8217;d be looking for a time machine this morning and go back to the day I agreed to show up, change my mind and write this note: &#8220;Dear Rick: Thanks for the invitation to appear the same night as my friend John McCain at your church.&nbsp; I get alot of invitations, though, and will be appearing elsewhere that evening.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This crowd was&nbsp;swarming toward McCain to begin with, and Rick Warren has quite&nbsp;conservative views on plenty of hot button issues.&nbsp; But Warren is still a man best known for his homey advice about putting God first (not&nbsp;a very&nbsp;controversial notion for a Christian), so many viewers probably thought he would play &#8220;fair and balanced.&#8221;&nbsp; Well, Jay, he did not.&nbsp; He was clearly well-schooled on how to set up questions with well-tested right-wing talking points, so that Obama would have had to spend a great deal of time just correcting the questioner.&nbsp; (You and I understand&nbsp;that technique well, both&nbsp;as talk show guests and hosts of our own shows.)<\/p>\n<p>Let me give you a few examples on core constitutional and human rights questions. Here&nbsp;was Warren&#8217;s set up to his stem cell questions: &#8220;We&#8217;ve had this scientific breakthrough of creating these pluri-potent stem cells in adult cells&#8230;&#8221; as if everybody knows we don&#8217;t need all those embryonic stem cells which create all the problems for &#8220;pro-lifers.&#8221; That crowd would rather grow all these &#8220;frozen&#8221; embryos into&nbsp;&#8220;snowflake babies&#8221; (which will never happen) and refuse to admit that these embryos&nbsp;will eventually be discarded as medical waste. But Warren&#8217;s setup is the problem: there was no great breakthrough that means that all research can be done with adult cells.&nbsp; That is the line of the Religious Right; it is not the scientific consensus.&nbsp; To the lay listener, however, it sounded like God&#8217;s own truth, not Pastor Warren&#8217;s spin.&nbsp; Senator Obama more or less fell into the presumption, too.<\/p>\n<p>Another example comes from the discussion of the &#8220;faith-based initiative.&#8221;&nbsp; The setup included Warren&#8217;s claims that &#8220;eighty percent of Americans believe that faith-based organizations do a better job at community services than the government&#8221; and the related: &#8220;The Civil Rights Act of l964 says that faith-based organizations have the right to hire people that think like they do.&#8221;&nbsp; We are entitled to our opinions in this country, but the fact that 80% of us believe something doesn&#8217;t make it true.&nbsp; Social scientists who study all this do not generally conclude that faith-based groups as a whole do better than &#8220;secular&#8221; or government&nbsp;groups at helping those in need.&nbsp; On the hiring issue, what has kept President Bush&#8217;s faith-based initiative from passing Congress has been precisely that many Senators do not think the landmark Civil Rights Act even addressed the issue of taxpayer-funded church positions or activities.<\/p>\n<p>Obama did stick to his guns&nbsp;in claiming&nbsp;that the government wouldn&#8217;t fund religious discrimination, but Warren&#8217;s follow up on hurricane assistance was clearly designed to force the Senator to hedge on whether you could allow a relief agency&nbsp;under some circumstances to refuse to hire people from the &#8220;wrong church,&#8221; even to pick up debris and house people.&nbsp; (Sadly, I heard reports of this happening post-Katrina, but only rarely.)<\/p>\n<p>One&nbsp;last example&nbsp;of Warren&#8217;s set-up technique was his phrasing of the question on &#8220;human trafficking,&#8221; which he claimed was a $32 billion slavery enterprise (figuring out the take of criminals is always tough, but $32 billion is often what is thrown around by the Religious Right).&nbsp; He continued that &#8220;27 million people are living in slavery right now, many of them in sex traffic.&#8221;&nbsp; Every civilized person is against human&nbsp;trafficking, but it is mainly not about sex.&nbsp; Indeed the Justice Department has prosecuted&nbsp;very few cases about sexual&nbsp;slavery&nbsp;over the past 7 years because the situation is just not commonplace.&nbsp; The often brutal economic trafficking is a real issue, but it is very complex to tackle without having the United States&nbsp;enlist international enforcement efforts &#8212;&nbsp;which the Right always objects to as somehow giving over American sovereignty to the UN or some other hated entity.&nbsp; But, again, Obama slipped into the sex discussion first and then had little&nbsp;time to get at the broader economic issues.<\/p>\n<p>When we started this opening salvo in the &#8220;blogalogue,&#8221; I also suggested that we knew enough already about&nbsp;each candidate&#8217;s personal faith. (I&#8217;m convinced that&nbsp;each is&nbsp;deep and abiding.)&nbsp; Warren, of course, brought it up again and then listened to McCain tell his story again of how a North Vietnamese guard made a cross in the dirt when he visited McCain&#8217;s POW cell one Christmas.&nbsp; Warren looked like he was hearing a first-hand&nbsp;account of the Resurrection; but, in fact, this story is told&nbsp;every time&nbsp;that McCain appears before a religious audience.&nbsp; It&#8217;s virtually a part of the McCain &#8220;religious stump speech.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So, all in all, the evening served up biased questions on the social issues and little value for Obama with the still mainly very conservative&nbsp;&#8220;evangelical&#8221; crowd.&nbsp; But thanks to Rick Warren&nbsp;for assuring us that we Americans &#8220;have the freedom to protest this meeting.&#8221;&nbsp; I did and I&#8217;m glad.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s get to the big mistake first: Barack Obama should not have agreed to do this.&nbsp; If I were the Senator I&#8217;d be looking for a time machine this morning and go back to the day I agreed to show up, change my mind and write this note: &#8220;Dear Rick: Thanks for the invitation to&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":164,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,1,2,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-abortion","category-church-politicking","category-courts","category-election-08"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Saddleback: Biased Questions and A Big Mistake - Lynn v. 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