{"id":1282,"date":"2016-03-19T00:12:21","date_gmt":"2016-03-19T00:12:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lordre\/?p=1282"},"modified":"2016-03-19T00:17:46","modified_gmt":"2016-03-19T00:17:46","slug":"brexit-would-be-bad-but-is-a-useful-specter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lordre\/2016\/03\/brexit-would-be-bad-but-is-a-useful-specter.html","title":{"rendered":"Brexit would be bad, but is a useful specter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lordre\/files\/2016\/03\/British-flag.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-1284\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/375\/2016\/03\/British-flag-1024x563.jpg\" alt=\"British flag\" width=\"650\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A Brexit\u00a0would be bad\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/press.labour.org.uk\/post\/140141671584\/risk-to-vital-research-funding-if-the-uk-leaves\" target=\"_blank\">for science<\/a> and welfare &#8211; two important pillars of modernity in Britain.<\/p>\n<h3>It would be a historic step back. Much of the funding towards welfare originates in the European Union, meaning that the rug would be pulled from under the feet of many people living today with the blessing of Britain&#8217;s welfare state.<\/h3>\n<p>The benefits of the Brexit, however,\u00a0are that it will let people escape the democratic deficit that burdens\u00a0European institutions. A lot of lost popular sovereignty\u00a0would be restored to the broader public in\u00a0a departed Britain\u00a0rather being increasingly hijacked by the\u00a0non-elected\u00a0European Commission.<\/p>\n<p>Although I read <a href=\"http:\/\/iwallerstein.com\/collapse-of-the-european-union-a-skeptical-view\/\" target=\"_blank\">opinions saying\u00a0the collapse of the EU is not a realistic prospect<\/a>, I think Britain (for all its faults) is respected. This means its\u00a0actions are not the sort to be dismissed, and there are going to be a lot of copycats out there among the international community. When Britain does something radical, the world pays attention. So\u00a0I believe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.clubof.info\/2015\/05\/wallerstein-brexit-may-collapse-eu.html\" target=\"_blank\">if\u00a0Britain left the EU, it is very likely that a type of irrational domino effect would ensue that would destroy the EU itself<\/a>. There are already indications that all the other European powers intend to abandon the EU if Britain takes such a step. This is quite ironic, because British Euroscepticism is its own brand, based on the strong geopolitical history of Britain&#8217;s isolation from Europe and defiance of central European political power. British Eurosceptics have no desire to destroy the EU, they just don&#8217;t want Britain to be part of it. There is no-one here bragging about destroying Europe, only leaving it. For them to accidentally destroy the entire thing would surprise even them.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, the case for a Brexit is led by nationalists, and nationalism is a thing of the past. Sorry to disappoint the nationalists but, if the EU falls apart, the next thing to fall apart will be the United Kingdom itself. Oh yes, the\u00a0UK is a tenuous union too, you saw it\u00a0almost fall\u00a0apart during the Scottish independence referendum.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, I believe the specter of a Brexit is more politically useful than an actual Brexit. Once you remove the irrational nationalist reasons for leaving, the problem is solely that Europe must become more democratically accountable. That can be accomplished with political rhetoric and pressure, rather than striding into an abyss\u00a0by just walking out the door. For this reason, pressure must be put on the EU bureaucracy to reform. The outcome should not be contingent on\u00a0a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.clubof.info\/2015\/10\/brexit-may-need-to-be-prior-to-2017.html\" target=\"_blank\">single referendum<\/a>, but the prospect of many referendums and constant pressure by the full spectrum of left and right Eurosceptics to make Europe go\u00a0more democratic, or collapse.<\/p>\n<p>So, in sum, I don&#8217;t think it is in the interests of the majority of the British people &#8211; especially the most vulnerable &#8211; to leave the EU. A Brexit would be bad for us. But I see the referendum as a crucial step in pressuring the EU to rethink its future. I hope the house doesn&#8217;t fall down. If\u00a0it does, it just\u00a0shows it was too flimsy\u00a0to be worth saving.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-919\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/375\/2015\/09\/hjb-signature-new-transparent-300x86.png\" alt=\"hjb signature new transparent\" width=\"300\" height=\"86\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Brexit\u00a0would be bad\u00a0for science and welfare &#8211; two important pillars of modernity in Britain. It would be a historic step back. 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