{"id":1021,"date":"2015-10-24T00:17:46","date_gmt":"2015-10-24T00:17:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lordre\/?p=1021"},"modified":"2015-10-24T00:19:59","modified_gmt":"2015-10-24T00:19:59","slug":"stop-the-iran-deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lordre\/2015\/10\/stop-the-iran-deal.html","title":{"rendered":"Stop the Iran deal, stop intelligence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-1022 size-full aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/375\/2015\/10\/Cartoon-anti-Iran-deal.png\" alt=\"Stop Iran deal\" width=\"600\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Various US Republican candidates have threatened to ignore or even stop the Iran deal &#8211;\u00a0the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) &#8211; signed with\u00a0Iran if they become President.<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Whatever they may say, the so-called deep state in the US has already committed itself to the deal with Iran. That means the entrenched political-military bureaucrats who truly determine US &#8220;national security&#8221; policy have already made up their minds. The people\u00a0at the Pentagon\u00a0support the deal with Iran and the people\u00a0at Langley support the deal with Iran.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Considering this above fact, it\u00a0is likely that any promise to break the Iran deal cannot be kept by GOP candidates if they actually succeed in becoming President. Even the US President can&#8217;t discipline\u00a0the deep state, as Obama knows all to well considering his failure to end the Afghanistan War\u00a0or close Guantanamo. The deep state does what it wants, it is the real regime.<\/p>\n<p>I would consider the GOP candidates saying they would tear up the Iran deal, <em>warmongers<\/em>. They appeal to war to make themselves look tough in front of the public. This is quite different from <em>hawks<\/em>, however, which is probably a term they would prefer over the former.<\/p>\n<p>A hawk differs from a warmonger in that a hawk at least tends to know what he&#8217;s doing, and does not fly into a wall. Warmongers on the other hand are fundamentally irrational and cannot tell the difference between a policy that would produce victory and one that would produce mass suicide and defeat. When not privy to the right amount of classified information and briefed by generals, someone with a fetish for military solutions is automatically a warmonger, not a hawk.<\/p>\n<p>Some, such as Senator John McCain, are in an adequate position to\u00a0be hawks, but are simply too stupid to actually read or understand the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.clubof.info\/2015\/10\/straitjacket-for-murderer-john-mccain.html\" target=\"_blank\">intelligence files on their desk<\/a>. They are too busy thinking about what a &#8220;war hero&#8221; they might have been. Too busy thinking of ways to act out\u00a0<em>Rambo<\/em> movies to bother reading anything of merit. Despite the fact he has access to classified intelligence of the kind I can only dream of,\u00a0John McCain&#8217;s suggestions about how the US should beat Russia in Syria fail to observe basic information that is already in the public domain. An example of McCain&#8217;s\u00a0classified unintelligence\u00a0is as follows.<\/p>\n<p>Syrian rebels already have many\u00a0&#8220;Stinger&#8221; missiles and have found them ineffective against the Syrian Air Force, but McCain <a href=\"http:\/\/sputniknews.com\/us\/20151020\/1028835944\/us-stingers-missiles-syrian-rebels-mccain.html\" target=\"_blank\">urged\u00a0giving such missiles<\/a>\u00a0to Syrian rebels (in response to their less specific\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lordre\/2015\/10\/double-edged-swords-rattle-over-russias-airstrikes.html\">air defence request<\/a>) as if it would be a game-changer against the Russians. All this can prove\u00a0is that\u00a0McCain is an idiot.\u00a0Whether he is an <em>exceptional<\/em>\u00a0American\u00a0politician in this regard depends on who he is being compared with. It is clear that someone such as Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama are intellectual giants in the pantheon of US politics compared to McCain, who is\u00a0equal only to Sarah Palin.<\/p>\n<h2>But supposing the warmongers\u00a0of the campaign trail come to power and defeat the hawks of the deep state against all odds? If idiocy\u00a0prevails over expertise, and\u00a0the goal to stop the Iran deal is achieved, what then?<\/h2>\n<p>The Republican view at this time seems to be that the Iran deal was\u00a0signed bilaterally between the US and Iran, rather than between\u00a0six world powers (five of which\u00a0don&#8217;t answer to the US or its President) and Iran. Even worse, they view the deal as being signed by President Obama against the interests of the US, which is tantamount to saying the deal is illegitimate.<\/p>\n<p>In the view of the international community, for the US to disregard to the JCPOA would mean that the US has violated the deal signed with five\u00a0world powers (three\u00a0of which are its allies) and Iran.\u00a0It would reduce the US to the rogue state disobeying the international community and acting capriciously, and any ensuing efforts by the US against Iran would be met by America&#8217;s European allies with silence, disgust and refusal to cooperate.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, such a disgrace\u00a0would not be\u00a0unprecedented for the US, if we remember the global shame it was prepared to endure through its aggression against Iraq in 2003. If there is one good thing about Barack Obama, it is that he would not repeat that disaster\u00a0on his watch, and he would have no kind words for any future President who would.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-962\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/375\/2015\/10\/hjb-signature-new-opaque-2.png\" alt=\"hjb signature new opaque 2\" width=\"285\" height=\"58\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Various US Republican candidates have threatened to ignore or even stop the Iran deal &#8211;\u00a0the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) &#8211; signed with\u00a0Iran if they become President. Whatever they may say, the so-called deep state in the US has already committed itself to the deal with Iran. That means the entrenched political-military bureaucrats who&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":577,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[68,71,72,153,67,66,15,69],"tags":[1248,1243,945,1250,1245,509,1247,58,1244,1246,456,289,1249,239,1251],"class_list":["post-1021","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conflict-2","category-conflict-resolution","category-international-relations","category-lordre-2","category-middle-east","category-politics-2","category-us","category-violence","tag-clinton","tag-deep-state","tag-europe","tag-hawks","tag-international-community","tag-iran","tag-iran-deal","tag-iraq","tag-iraq-war-2003","tag-jcpoa","tag-john-mccain","tag-obama","tag-sarah-palin","tag-united-states","tag-warmongers"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Stop the Iran deal, stop intelligence - L&#039;Ordre<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"When Republican candidates promise to stop the Iran deal or ignore it, it is appalling. 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