{"id":106,"date":"2009-06-03T14:45:00","date_gmt":"2009-06-03T14:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/lessonsfromarecoveringdoormat\/2009\/06\/interview-with-courtney-hazlett.html"},"modified":"2009-06-03T14:45:00","modified_gmt":"2009-06-03T14:45:00","slug":"interview-with-courtney-hazlett","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/lessonsfromarecoveringdoormat\/2009\/06\/interview-with-courtney-hazlett.html","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Courtney Hazlett"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_W3h59OgJIAA\/Sibb6v_K1ZI\/AAAAAAAAA6U\/3RhGs_SvuXA\/s1600-h\/*+Embracing+success.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;float: left;cursor: pointer;width: 164px;height: 200px\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_W3h59OgJIAA\/Sibb6v_K1ZI\/AAAAAAAAA6U\/3RhGs_SvuXA\/s200\/*+Embracing+success.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>I\u2019m delighted to have an interview with <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Courtney Hazlett<\/span>, columnist and Celebrity Correspondent for MSNBC, for my Embracing SUCCESS series. Courtney covers media and pop culture as a columnist and on-air personality for MSNBC and MSNBC.com She is a regular contributor to <span style=\"font-style: italic\">&#8220;Morning Joe<\/span>,&#8221; MSNBC dayside programming, and frequently appears on &#8220;<span style=\"font-style: italic\">Today<\/span> &#8220;and &#8220;<span style=\"font-style: italic\">Access Hollywood<\/span>.&#8221; I was impressed with Courtney when I met her and after the interview, I\u2019m really inspired. She\u2019s a woman who believes in pursuing your passions and living by them.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">When you were in school, what did you want to be when you grew up?<\/span> I always wanted to be a doctor. About halfway through college, it became painfully obvious that I was terrible at chemistry. I decided to head in a direction that played off my strengths\u2014reading and writing. I majored in philosophy.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_W3h59OgJIAA\/SibUqy1PliI\/AAAAAAAAA6M\/zcQdcLPwEmM\/s1600-h\/images.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;float: left;cursor: pointer;width: 97px;height: 145px\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_W3h59OgJIAA\/SibUqy1PliI\/AAAAAAAAA6M\/zcQdcLPwEmM\/s200\/images.jpeg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What was your first job out of school?<\/span> I was a sailing coach and then became an editorial assistant at Boating magazine. I had no formal journalism experience in college so I realized I had to parlay my hobbies into a job.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How did you swing into what you do now?<\/span> I made it up to senior editor at Yachting magazine, at which point I realized I liked journalism and media but didn\u2019t want to get pigeon-holed. The only way to calibrate and reset was to go to journalism school. I went to Columbia and started focusing on getting more into pop culture. It was another one of my interests.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How did you learn to be so good at what you do?<\/span> I dive into subjects, love them, become an expert, and be very good at the craft. I worked the whole time I was in school. I was at the Smoking Gun. By the time I graduated (it took me 2 years since I was going part time) I was at People magazine.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Did being a woman ever hinder you?<\/span> I often have days when I feel like I\u2019m in a man\u2019s business. When you look at the management at the top, it\u2019s mostly men. The majority take me for what my accomplishments and talents are. From time to time I get approached by someone in a position to further my career who says, \u201cI hear you\u2019re actually kind of smart.\u201d (laughs) Would they say that to a man? I don\u2019t think so. I\u2019ve never felt that if I was a man I\u2019d get a free pass or get away with something but I do think a woman has to come out of the gate a little bit stronger. I kind of only know one speed, which may be a blessing in disguise.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How do you handle criticism?<\/span> I have fairly thick skin, which is essential in this business. There\u2019s somebody out there who starts their day posting what\u2019s wrong with my column, along the lines of \u201cI can eat pen and paper and puke up a better column.\u201d I just think go for it! But it can start to get to you. There\u2019s this nasty thing called the Internet that provides a forum for people to say things that they\u2019d never say to your face. I think that\u2019s unfortunate, a misuse of the medium and I wish people would use their time in a more productive way. But it is what it is. You have to just move forward and past it. Constructive criticism is always welcome.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Have you experienced problems with celebrities you\u2019ve reported on where the news was negative?<\/span> No. There are times a publicist asks if I have to run that or can I kill it. But I\u2019m not in the business of killing things because I like you. If it\u2019s fair, it\u2019s fair. I get pegged as a gossip columnist, which I sort of loathe. At the end of the day, I have sources and my columns go through the legal department and several editors and are well vetted.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What gives you satisfaction?<\/span> I get a lot of satisfaction when I devote a lot of time to something that doesn\u2019t have an immediate payoff and then it does. I love the idea of becoming an expert in a new subject every week. That\u2019s not to say I don\u2019t know what I\u2019m talking about. For example, right now we\u2019re going into upfronts so I thought I need to know a little more about advertising. It\u2019s narrowing a focus and makes you see everything differently. I call I doing homework. That\u2019s a very satisfying part of my job. I like taking some of my time away from 30 Rock to do homework and see that pay out over the course of time.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What\u2019s the favorite part of your career?<\/span> I like being on the leading edge, getting information and having the responsibility to put it out there in a way that interests people. I think right now more than ever is proof that you can put really god information out but if nobody is reading it, it doesn\u2019t matter.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What qualities do you think helped you advance in your career?<\/span> The idea that I never had a playbook helped me out. I didn\u2019t feel I had to follow an A then B timeline. I was able to go full steam ahead. If I wanted something, I went after it. I guess I have this warped sense that everything will work out.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How do you separate your job from who you are?<\/span> I don\u2019t. What you see is what you get with me!<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How would you describe yourself to someone who doesn\u2019t know you?<\/span> I\u2019m a journalist who puts my work out there through every medium possible.  I\u2019m on television; I have a column online; I still do print pieces from time to time. I started doing some radio. I think now you can\u2019t put all your eggs in one communications basket. I always had a sense when I was growing up that I would end up with a job that doesn\u2019t have an exact job description, even when I went into medicine.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How do you see the current job market?<\/span> Right now, people are looking at the difficult job market through the wrong lens. It\u2019s a great time to get the job you want because you can walk in and if you have great ides, convince someone that it\u2019s great. You can do things outside the box. Right now people want something different. Look at newspapers. They have great information but no one\u2019s reading them or buying them. Take note of that. Think about \u201cwhat can I do to set myself apart and make people interested?\u201d This is a fantastic time!<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What does success mean to you?<\/span> I want to do well and be very good at what I do. I want to be respected in my field. That\u2019s success to me. I love waking up every day at 4:45 and getting a run in before I go to work and those sorts of things. I\u2019ve struck a good balance. It might not look like a balance on the outside, but for me it is.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What do you see yourself doing in 10 years?<\/span> I have no idea! It will all work out. I didn\u2019t think I\u2019d be here three years<br \/>\nago. I just kind of choose my interests and keep trying to do what I\u2019m doing as best I can. And new opportunities pop up. I\u2019m not afraid to go to somebody with a different idea and see where it takes me.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What gives you the balls to do those kind of things?<\/span> Naivety? I just think what\u2019s the worst that can happen? If someone says \u201cno,\u201d I\u2019m not going to get fired for having an idea that doesn\u2019t work. I just think why not? I guess I have a certain level of self-confidence that gets me to that place where you can knock on someone\u2019s door, send that email or pick up the phone. I just don\u2019t believe in having things happen to you. Life would be so boring. I prefer to make it happen.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">How important is passion?<\/span> It\u2019s absolutely essential. I don\u2019t believe in waking up in the morning If you\u2019re not going do something you\u2019re passionate about. Just do something you love! There\u2019s nothing more unattractive to me in a person than someone who clearly hates their job. Do something else. I don\u2019t mean to sound cavalier in saying this. But I truly believe that everybody has to have something they\u2019re really interested in and there\u2019s probably a way to make your life revolve around it.<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/\/\/\/Users\/daylle\/Desktop\/images.jpeg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">What\u2019s your best advice for someone who wants to follow their passion but is scared?<\/span> Be inventive. I\u2019m blessed with having had my upbringing. My parents were very nontraditional in getting to where they are. I was a sophomore in college before they were both out of school. 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