{"id":198,"date":"2009-08-13T18:55:32","date_gmt":"2009-08-13T18:55:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/kingdomofpriests\/2009\/08\/epicureanism-masturbation.html"},"modified":"2009-08-13T18:55:32","modified_gmt":"2009-08-13T18:55:32","slug":"epicureanism-masturbation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/kingdomofpriests\/2009\/08\/epicureanism-masturbation.html","title":{"rendered":"Epicureanism &amp; Masturbation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Epicurus\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/121\/import\/81175659_b460df1f6c.jpg\" width=\"327\" height=\"500\" class=\"mt-image-none\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>Some readers doubted&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/kingdomofpriests\/2009\/08\/a-heretic-in-jewish-terms-someone-who-denies-intelligent-design.html\">my characterization of Epicurean philosophy<\/a> as, among other things, advocating masturbation over sexual love between men and women.&nbsp;Perhaps it would have been more strictly accurate if I had attributed this teaching to Epicureanism, rather than to Epicurus. That&#8217;s the idea that&#8217;s at stake here, after all. It&#8217;s what is meant by the heresy that the Talmud calls being an&nbsp;<i>apikoros<\/i>. The historical person of Epicurus is of secondary interest to the philosophy that bears his name.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Anyway, you want proof?<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Not much survives of Epicurus&#8217;s own voluminous writings.&nbsp;Instead, his philosophy was popularized by the 1st-century BCE Epicurean poet <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lucretius\">Lucretius<\/a>, a Roman,&nbsp;who wrote the epic poem <i>On the Nature of Things<\/i>. Lucretius advised men, &#8220;Ejaculate the liquid collected in the body and do not retain it.&#8221; In his book <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Moral-Darwinism-How-Became-Hedonists\/dp\/0830826661\">Moral Darwinism<\/a><\/i>, Benjamin Wiker explains&nbsp;that under the Epicurean way of thinking, since there&#8217;s no design in nature, there is no normative way of using and\/or taking pleasure through the human body. There is nothing naturally &#8220;right&#8221; about linking sexuality with procreation. In the search for tranquility, Epicureanism sees sex as something to be avoided. Relationships expose us to the risk of pain. Rather, &#8220;it is fitting to flee images [of the beloved] and drive away fearfully from oneself the foods of love, and turn the mind elsewhere.&#8221; At which point, relieve yourself in a solitary fashion.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Lucretius is better known for articulating a startlingly detailed proto-Darwininian idea of life&#8217;s development through random variation and natural selection.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div>Incidentally, last night I remembered that when I was in college I actually had the opportunity to visit Epicurus&#8217;s birthplace, the island of Samos off the Turkish coast, a quick boat ride from Ephesus with its impressive ruins. I was recalling the first night I spent there. Unable to find a hotel with an unavailable room, I slept sitting up in a hut on the beach. The next night, one hotel took pity on me and put me in a room sleeping in the same bed (!) as a young woman about my age from Belgium. We had dinner that night and she told me about her father who was a Belgian politician who sparked controversy by being a Freemason. Strange, right?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>After a somewhat awkward night, I woke early the next morning to visit Ephesus. When I got back to the hotel at the end of the day, I saw that either she or someone else had looted some items from my backpack. That&#8217;s my memory of Samos.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Of course this sheds no light on Epicurus.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some readers doubted&nbsp;my characterization of Epicurean philosophy as, among other things, advocating masturbation over sexual love between men and women.&nbsp;Perhaps it would have been more strictly accurate if I had attributed this teaching to Epicureanism, rather than to Epicurus. That&#8217;s the idea that&#8217;s at stake here, after all. It&#8217;s what is meant by the heresy&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-198","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-jewish-philosophy"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Epicureanism &amp; Masturbation - Kingdom of Priests<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/kingdomofpriests\/2009\/08\/epicureanism-masturbation.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Epicureanism &amp; Masturbation - Kingdom of Priests\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Some readers doubted&nbsp;my characterization of Epicurean philosophy as, among other things, advocating masturbation over sexual love between men and women.&nbsp;Perhaps it would have been more strictly accurate if I had attributed this teaching to Epicureanism, rather than to Epicurus. 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