{"id":229,"date":"2007-02-26T10:49:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-26T10:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jwalking\/2007\/02\/think-jesus-meets-titanic.html"},"modified":"2007-02-26T10:49:00","modified_gmt":"2007-02-26T10:49:00","slug":"think-jesus-meets-titanic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jwalking\/2007\/02\/think-jesus-meets-titanic.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Think Jesus meets Titanic&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I can almost see the conversation that <a href=\"http:\/\/dsc.discovery.com\/convergence\/tomb\/bios\/bios.html\">James Cameron<\/a> had with fellow filmmaker <a href=\"http:\/\/dsc.discovery.com\/convergence\/tomb\/bios\/bios.html\"><span>Simcha Jacobovici<\/span><\/a>  (aka, the Naked Archeologist) some years ago, &#8220;We need a project.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yeah, something sexy and big.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, you know that DaVinci Code thing is big.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;DaVinci Code&#8230; DaVinci Code&#8230; hmmm&#8230;yeah, not as big as Titanic though.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Certainly not as big as Titanic.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But what if it was true? You know, what if Jesus had hooked up with Mary Magdalene and had a kid? That would be huge. Huge!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8221; Yeah, yeah&#8230; Jesus meets Titanic. I like it, I like it. We can sell that. What is the evidence?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, none really, just an old tomb dug up in 1980. The BBC already did a documentary on this but, you know, who watches the BBC?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yeah, no one watches the BBC.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The conversation above is actually imagined.  But it is no less fanciful than the hyped &#8220;discovery&#8221; of Jesus&#8217; &#8220;family tomb&#8221;. That &#8220;discovery&#8221; is actually so absurd it is hard to know where to begin. It is as if I said the Potomac river just parted in front of me and the Loch Ness monster emerged and handed me a bagel. Look, here is the bagel. It is an onion bagel.<\/p>\n<p>For starters, there isn&#8217;t anything new. Although people associated with the project are tossing around words like &#8220;DNA analysis&#8221; and &#8220;statistical analysis&#8221; and &#8220;forensic evidence&#8221; to distinguish this book and documentary from<span style=\"padding-left: 7px;padding-right: 7px\"><span class=\"SS_L3\"><span class=\"verdana\">the BBC&#8217;s 1996 Easter Sunday edition of Heart of the Matter, presented by Joan Bakewell (that attempted to make the same case), there isn&#8217;t anything new.<\/p>\n<p>Take &#8220;DNA analysis&#8221; for instance. DNA analysis would certainly be extraordinary if someone actually had a verified sample of Jesus&#8217; DNA to compare the &#8220;new&#8221; sample with. Since that is obviously not the case, all this proves is that the person whose bones were in the ossuary had DNA.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s look at the &#8220;statistical analysis&#8221; question. Ben Witherington does a good job of tackling that one on his blog found <a href=\"http:\/\/benwitherington.blogspot.com\/\">here<\/a>. But the bottom line is that there aren&#8217;t any new statistics now versus a decade ago and a decade ago here is what <span style=\"font-style: italic\">The Times of London <\/span>wrote in response to the BBC documentary:<\/span><\/span><\/span><br \/><span style=\"padding-left: 7px;padding-right: 7px\"><span class=\"SS_L3\"><span class=\"verdana\"><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>L. Y. Rahmani, an archaeologist who has catalogued almost all the 1,000 <a name=\"ORIGHIT_6\"><\/a><a name=\"HIT_6\"><\/a><span class=\"hit\"><span>ossuaries<\/span><\/span> found in Israel, said the BBC&#8217;s conclusions were absurd. The names Joseph, Mary and <a name=\"ORIGHIT_7\"><\/a><a name=\"HIT_7\"><\/a><span class=\"hit\"><span>Jesus<\/span><\/span> were common in antiquity, he said, and some ten <a name=\"ORIGHIT_8\"><\/a><a name=\"HIT_8\"><\/a><span class=\"hit\"><span>ossuaries<\/span><\/span> bearing the name of <a name=\"ORIGHIT_9\"><\/a><a name=\"HIT_9\"><\/a><span class=\"hit\"><span>Jesus<\/span><\/span> in either Hebrew or Greek have been found. Variations of Miriam, from which Mary is derived, and Joseph are far more common.<\/p>\n<p class=\"loose\"> &#8221;The fact that in this case you have the combination of names in the same tomb is simply a matter of statistics,&#8221; said the former curator of the Antiquities Authority in whose warehouse the empty <a name=\"ORIGHIT_10\"><\/a><a name=\"HIT_10\"><\/a><span class=\"hit\"><span>ossuaries<\/span><\/span> were found and put on show for the press this week.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>There are many, many more areas to critique. The most interesting part of all of this, however, is a simple question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Why is it that so many people spend so much time and passion attempting to disprove Biblical faith and Christianity in particular?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There is not, for instance, a very big industry for disproving Buddha. Mohammad doesn&#8217;t have an industry devoted to disproving him or Islam. Why Jesus? Why is that Jesus&#8217; name can people more frothed up more quickly than any other name?<\/p>\n<p>There are certain easy answers &#8211; it has become the most politicized faith, it has the deepest roots in Western culture, it has been the root of past sins. But I think it lies far deeper than that. I think it lies in words written by Paul in his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=1%20corinthians%201:18%20-%2025;&amp;version=31;\">first letter to the Corinthians<\/a>, &#8220;For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are being destroyed, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It is. Renowned theologian Bishop N.T. Wright writes of it this way: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Christian good news is all about God dying on a rubbish-heap at the wrong end of the Empire. It&#8217;s all about God babbling nonsense to a room full of philosophers. It&#8217;s all about the true God confronting the world of posturing power and prestige, and overthrowing it in order to set up his own kingdom, a kingdom in which the weak and the foolish find themselves  just as welcome as the strong the wise, if not more so.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That message is an affront, it is an offense. It requires a submission of human will to the will of a God who demands we see ourselves as worthless and priceless.  It is a message that human hearts and human minds rebel against because of all that it requires &#8211; unconditional love received, unconditional love given&#8230;things the human heart has such trouble with. It is also a message that is true no matter how many times people think they have disproven it and a message grounded in timeless truths like an empty cross and an empty tomb.<br \/><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I can almost see the conversation that James Cameron had with fellow filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici (aka, the Naked Archeologist) some years ago, &#8220;We need a project.&#8221; &#8220;Yeah, something sexy and big.&#8221; &#8220;Well, you know that DaVinci Code thing is big.&#8221; &#8220;DaVinci Code&#8230; DaVinci Code&#8230; hmmm&#8230;yeah, not as big as Titanic though.&#8221; &#8220;Certainly not as big&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":99,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-229","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-faith"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>&quot;Think Jesus meets Titanic&quot; 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