{"id":7545,"date":"2011-04-28T10:32:03","date_gmt":"2011-04-28T16:32:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/?p=7545"},"modified":"2011-05-03T16:53:27","modified_gmt":"2011-05-03T16:53:27","slug":"what-joel-osteen-has-never-heard-of-mark-driscoll","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesusneedsnewpr\/2011\/04\/what-joel-osteen-has-never-heard-of-mark-driscoll.html","title":{"rendered":"WHAT: Joel Osteen has never heard of Mark Driscoll?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/2011\/04\/JoelOsteen435x326.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7546\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/2011\/04\/JoelOsteen435x326.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"435\" height=\"326\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/briandblog.wordpress.com\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/briandblog.wordpress.com\/\">BrianD <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/briandblog.wordpress.com\/\">(&lt;-great blogger, btw)<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/briandblog.wordpress.com\/\"> blogged yesterday<\/a> about a very interesting excerpt from Cathy Lynn Grossman\u2019s <em>USA WEEKEND<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usaweekend.com\/article\/20110422\/LIVING\/104240322\/Joel-Osteen-My-gift-encouragement-?odyssey=nav%7Chead\">feature on Joel Osteen<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Ms. Grossman writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>.<em>..In Osteen\u2019s sermons, bad times can be reimagined  as opportunities. Someone left you? Lost your job? Thank God! You didn\u2019t  need that person. A better job awaits. \u201cGod wants to double your  blessings as he did for Job,\u201d he says.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This all makes his critics livid. The Rev. Albert Mohler,  Southern Baptist Theological Seminary president and powerhouse  traditionalist, whacks him for \u201cplatitudes with attitudes.\u201d The Rev.  Mark Driscoll, who packs a Seattle megachurch for doctrine-laden  sermons, says Osteen reduces the pursuit of God to \u201clollipops and  skipping while singing hymns.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Mohler? Driscoll? \u201cI don\u2019t know who those people are,\u201d Osteen says, looking genuinely mystified\u2026.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m shocked. But I must say, I&#8217;m also a little jealous. I wish I didn&#8217;t know who those people are! Haha&#8230; I&#8217;m kidding.<\/p>\n<p>But seriously, how does somebody like Joel Osteen not know who Mark Driscoll is? It&#8217;s DRISCOLL! On Easter Sunday, he probably could have walked outside in Houston and heard Mark <del>yelling<\/del> preaching in Seattle!<\/p>\n<p>Not knowing who Mohler is? Eh, not a big deal. Lots of people aren&#8217;t familiar with him.<\/p>\n<p>But Mark?<\/p>\n<p>What makes this even funnier is the fact that Mark has often (and very publicly) criticized Joel&#8217;s &#8220;theology.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So who else has Joel never heard of? George Bush, Sr.? I hear they live in the same neighborhood, but maybe they&#8217;ve never seen each other? Does he know he has a wife named Victoria?<\/p>\n<p>Has he heard of Facebook?<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s my thought: Most of the blogs I&#8217;ve read regarding this story question what this news says about Joel. And I get that. That was my first response when I read it.<\/p>\n<p>But then I thought: Perhaps I should be asking what it says about me? You know, am I too much in the know? I mean, it&#8217;s not like I can &#8220;unknow&#8221; Mark Driscoll and <em>what&#8217;s-his-name<\/em>, but do I (we) spend too much time wanting (and pursuing) being in the know? Some knowledge just happens to us. But often I go out looking for it.<\/p>\n<p>So yes, it&#8217;s odd (and perhaps <em>telling<\/em>) that Joel is unaware of Mark Driscoll, but maybe, just maybe, he&#8217;s the one who&#8217;s better off.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BrianD (&lt;-great blogger, btw) blogged yesterday about a very interesting excerpt from Cathy Lynn Grossman\u2019s USA WEEKEND feature on Joel Osteen: Ms. Grossman writes: &#8230;In Osteen\u2019s sermons, bad times can be reimagined as opportunities. Someone left you? Lost your job? Thank God! You didn\u2019t need that person. 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