{"id":5058,"date":"2010-12-06T13:17:01","date_gmt":"2010-12-06T19:17:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/?p=5058"},"modified":"2011-05-03T16:57:06","modified_gmt":"2011-05-03T16:57:06","slug":"mark-driscoll-jay-z-yo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesusneedsnewpr\/2010\/12\/mark-driscoll-jay-z-yo.html","title":{"rendered":"Mark Driscoll &amp; Jay-Z&#8230; yo!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/2010\/12\/Mark_Jay.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5059\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/2010\/12\/Mark_Jay.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"495\" height=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Last week Seattle&#8217;s self-proclaimed BEST PASTOR EVER <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/matthewpaulturner#!\/pastormark\/posts\/180989525245015\">declared on Facebook<\/a> that he went to see Jay-Z while in New York City and he was currently listening to Jay-Z music. The update was pretty simple&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><em>It&#8217;s a Jay-Z soundtrack kind of day. Watched his NY show this weekend &#8211; I know he says bowling words but man the guy is a genius<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">And then Mark&#8217;s followers&#8211;mostly young hairless reformed boys&#8211;went INSANE&#8211;<em>more than 400 comments<\/em> insane.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Bobby commented&#8230;<\/strong> <em>I think if you knew what he was actually rapping  about, you wouldn&#8217;t want to promote him. Besides, he plainly says on  talk shows that he doesn&#8217;t believe in Jesus &#8211; or the Bible &#8211; thus, not  God either.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Angie wrote<\/strong>, <em>Mark, I just lost a bit of respect for you. <\/em>And then 8 people &#8220;liked&#8221; her comment.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Chris took it to the next level with his comment<\/strong>: <em>Watched a lot of porn for 24 years. I know they were having elicit sex, but they were so beautiful and good at it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>And then Ryan added&#8230;<\/strong> <em>He calls himself J-Hova which mocks our almighty  Jehova-God. He promotes evil and ungodliness. Yes his musical skills are  out of this world, however I wouldn&#8217;t call him a genius nor promote  him.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Then Jane summed it up&#8230;<\/strong> <em>I&#8217;m not pleased, but I&#8217;m just a sinner, so what  matters is&#8230;is God really pleased with you listening to this stuff?  Seems highly unlikely.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Of course, Mark&#8217;s faithful came to his comment rescue&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Greg wrote:<\/strong> <em>Don&#8217;t worry about the haters Pastor Mark&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Jeff said:<\/strong> <em>Sometimes  Christians make me sick..  hypocrites and legalists.  God will spit you  out of his mouth and say He never knew you Laodiceans. <\/em>(SIDE NOTE: Anybody want Jeff as Facebook friend?! Not me.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Zach chimed in with&#8230;<\/strong> <em>This kind of honesty from clergy is refreshing. Also, Jay-Z is tremendous.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Jessica offered her thoughts&#8230;<\/strong> <em>Good heavens you guys. No wonder so many people  hate Christians. I get it if you just don&#8217;t like Jay-Z but all the other  shit&#8230; Really guys? (<\/em>SIDE NOTE: And then Angela snapped back at<em> <\/em>Jessica: <em>why people hate Christians?? Really?? I  didn&#8217;t know we were here to please people?? I am here to do my best to  please God<\/em>.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">You get the picture, right? It was 400 comments of back-n-forth anger\/support that became almost humorous. And sad. And I suppose warranted&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>My thoughts&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">I have mixed feelings about this honestly. I have zero problem with Pastor Mark listening and enjoying the lyrical genius of Jay-Z. So in the context of whether or not Christians should listen to Jay-Z and the like, I don&#8217;t care&#8230; not in the least&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">However, in the context of &#8220;Mark,&#8221; I have to question how a pastor can rage against movies like Avatar and Twilight and then casually mention he went to a Jay-Z concert&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">Again, I like <em>Jay-Z<\/em>. I went to see <em>Avatar<\/em>. And I think <em>Twilight <\/em>sucks&#8230; but I saw it. For me, it isn&#8217;t a God question&#8230; it&#8217;s a Mark question&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\"><strong>Is Mark being inconsistent here? <\/strong>Is the content in Avatar or Twilight worse or &#8220;less godly&#8221; than the content that Jay-Z puts into song?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left\">I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that, in relation to Mark, I see both sides&#8230; which is why I think it&#8217;s stupid when pastors rally against pop culture. You rarely win.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left\">What do you think?<\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week Seattle&#8217;s self-proclaimed BEST PASTOR EVER declared on Facebook that he went to see Jay-Z while in New York City and he was currently listening to Jay-Z music. The update was pretty simple&#8230; It&#8217;s a Jay-Z soundtrack kind of day. 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