{"id":965,"date":"2006-05-12T05:45:24","date_gmt":"2006-05-12T05:45:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2006\/05\/mclarens-secret-5.html"},"modified":"2006-05-12T05:45:24","modified_gmt":"2006-05-12T05:45:24","slug":"mclarens-secret-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2006\/05\/mclarens-secret-5.html","title":{"rendered":"McLaren&#8217;s Secret 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In this last post on Brian McLaren&#8217;s <em>The Secret Message of Jesus<\/em> we will look at his last four chapters. Essentially our conversation today begins by asking if the kingdom is all-inclusive or are there borders? &#8220;Can any meaningful kingdom, including the kingdom of God, exist with no boundaries, no outside?&#8221; (163). Is there a more emerging question?<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nMcLaren sees two problems: &#8220;dangers of hostile exclusion and dangers of naive inclusion&#8221; (165).  His theory is that the kingdom is about &#8220;purposeful inclusion.&#8221; What is your thought on this one? &#8220;&#8230; the kingdom of God seeks to include all who want to participate in and contribute to its purpose, but it cannot include those who oppose its purpose&#8221; (167). He examines the well-known &#8220;he who is not against us&#8230;&#8221; and &#8220;he who is not with me&#8230; scatters.&#8221;<br \/>\nOn the future of the kingdom, McLaren opts for the view that God made the world and is watching as a parent watches the development of a child. Jesus&#8217; eschatology is not prediction of a time-table but warnings and promises. (See here M. Borg&#8217;s dissertation.) He has a brief escapade into Revelation. Do we want conventional futures, counterfutures, or a creative future? Jesus summons us to the last option.<br \/>\nChp. 20 is about the harvest of the kingdom: heaven! Jesus&#8217; vision is earthy. Jesus believed in a real resurrection at which time evil is destroyed. And this should lead us to focus our life now on God&#8217;s vision for his created world.<br \/>\nFinal chp.: Seeing the Kingdom. There is a longing, there is quest of the beautiful, and at times we catch glimpses of that kingdom glory. McLaren relates some of his own glimpses of the kingdom &#8212; like lines in Handel&#8217;s <em>Messiah<\/em>.<br \/>\nMonday I&#8217;ll try to post something comparing Wright&#8217;s book and McLaren&#8217;s.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this last post on Brian McLaren&#8217;s The Secret Message of Jesus we will look at his last four chapters. Essentially our conversation today begins by asking if the kingdom is all-inclusive or are there borders? &#8220;Can any meaningful kingdom, including the kingdom of God, exist with no boundaries, no outside?&#8221; (163). 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