{"id":6204,"date":"2009-11-19T06:06:45","date_gmt":"2009-11-19T06:06:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/science-body-and-soul-1-rjs.html"},"modified":"2009-11-19T06:06:45","modified_gmt":"2009-11-19T06:06:45","slug":"science-body-and-soul-1-rjs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/science-body-and-soul-1-rjs.html","title":{"rendered":"Science, Body, and Soul 1 (RJS)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/120\/import\/imgs\/corcoran%20ds.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px;float: right\" width=\"252\" height=\"393\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Over the next couple of weeks or so I would like to look at two books, not new but fairly recent, that think through some ideas on body and soul. The first is by Kevin Corcoran, <i><b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0801027802?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0801027802\">Rethinking Human Nature: A Christian Materialist Alternative to the Soul<\/a><\/b><\/i> where he develops a constitution view of human persons.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.calvin.edu\/academic\/philosophy\/corcoran\/\">Professor&nbsp; Corcoran<\/a> is a philosopher teaching at Calvin College specializing in philosophy of mind, metaphysics, and philosophy of religion&nbsp; &#8211; a philosopher who tries to connect philosophy with bible, theology, faith, and science. <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The second book is by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fuller.edu\/academics\/faculty\/joel-green.aspx\">Joel Green<\/a>, now a professor of New Testament interpretation at Fuller Theological Seminary. His book&nbsp; <i><b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0801035953?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0801035953\">Body, Soul, and Human Life: The Nature of Humanity in the Bible<\/a><\/b><\/i> looks at a biblical view of human nature and argues that a dualistic view of the human person&nbsp; as material body and immaterial soul is inconsistent with both science and Scripture. Green is a biblical scholar who works to connect bible, theology, and faith with philosophy and science. <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">I, on the other hand, am a scientist who would like to connect science with philosophy, bible, theology, and faith. Join us it should be interesting.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">To get this going let&#8217;s start simple, with a little question. <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><b>What kind of things are we? <br \/><\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Corcoran poses the problem like this (pp. 11-13):<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">A common Christian view through the centuries has held that we are <i>immaterial souls<\/i><br \/>\n&#8211; contingently and tightly joined to bodies on earth but capable of<br \/>\nexisting without them. The essence of our being is this immaterial soul<br \/>\nand this is what is preserved after death and in the age to come.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">But this is decidedly not the common view in our modern (or postmodern) western culture. As Corcoran puts it:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">&#8230; today the dominant view among philosophers, ethicists, neurobiologists, psychologists, and cognitive scientists is a &#8220;nothing but&#8221; view of materialism, the view that creatures like us are &#8220;nothing but&#8221; complicated neural networks or mere biological beasts. (p. 12)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The question of human nature has profound ramifications and impacts christian views of&nbsp; such topics as cloning, abortion, stem cell research, and even organ transplants. The question of human nature also touches on the afterlife and the meaning of creation &#8220;in the image of God.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">We ran a short series awhile ago looking at the science of sin (<i><b><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/09\/science-and-sin-rjs.html\">Part One<\/a><\/b><\/i> and <i><b><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/09\/science-and-sin-2-rjs.html\">Part Two<\/a><\/b><\/i>). This series explored the idea that what<br \/>\nwe are and how we behave is intimately related to the make up of our<br \/>\nphysical bodies.&nbsp; Not only that but how we choose to behave and to<br \/>\nthink has an impact on the make up of our physical being. Virtue, like<br \/>\nvice, can change the structure of the human brain. This information also impacts the way we think about human nature &#8211;&nbsp; and how we view ourselves.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Corcoran presents a version of materialism &#8211; not <i>nothing-but<\/i> materialism, which is a view inconsistent with Christian faith &#8211; but a version of materialism which keeps essential insights from the dualist view of of human nature while presenting a view of humans as what I would call embodied unities. This is, according to Corcoran, a Christian materialism. He doesn&#8217;t claim definitive answers, but opens his ideas for discussion. <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">This brings us back to the little question above as a way to begin this discussion &#8211; a question we can express in several ways, take your pick&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><b>What kind of things are we?<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><b>Are we, in our essence, immaterial things or material things &#8211; or both? <\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><b>If both, what kind of compound beings are we?<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><b>Is a materialist view of human persons and human nature consistent with the Christian faith?<\/b><br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">If you wish to contact me, you may do so at rjs4mail[at]att.net<i><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the next couple of weeks or so I would like to look at two books, not new but fairly recent, that think through some ideas on body and soul. 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