{"id":6147,"date":"2009-11-10T12:23:32","date_gmt":"2009-11-10T12:23:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/acts-and-mission-58.html"},"modified":"2009-11-10T12:23:32","modified_gmt":"2009-11-10T12:23:32","slug":"acts-and-mission-58","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/acts-and-mission-58.html","title":{"rendered":"Acts and Mission 58"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"JerusTem.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/120\/import\/imgs\/JerusTem.jpg\" width=\"471\" height=\"225\" class=\"mt-image-center\" style=\"text-align: center;margin: 0 auto 20px\" \/><\/span>Paul is at odds with Pharisaic believers over Gentiles: how are they saved? Do they need to embrace the whole Torah and get circumcised?<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\"><p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:6<\/span>&nbsp;Both the apostles and the elders met together to deliberate about this matter.&nbsp;<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:7<\/span>&nbsp;After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, &#8220;Brothers, you know that some time ago God chose me to preach to the Gentiles so they would hear the message of the gospel and believe.&nbsp;<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:8<\/span>&nbsp;And God, who knows the heart, has testified to them by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us,&nbsp;<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:9<\/span>&nbsp;and he made no distinction between them and us, cleansing their hearts by faith.&nbsp;<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:10<\/span>&nbsp;So now why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?&nbsp;<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:11<\/span>&nbsp;On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they are.&#8221;<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\"><br \/><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<div><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\">First report is from Peter, and it is very interesting and it is God-focused (see Gaventa,&nbsp;<em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/068705821X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=068705821X\">The Acts of the Apostles (Abingdon New Testament Commentaries)<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=068705821X\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/em>).<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Peter&#8217;s essential points:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. Peter&#8217;s experience of preaching the gospel &#8212; and he did this because of a dream vision from God &#8212; is that God has granted the Spirit to the Gentiles by faith, and not by way of circumcision. God makes no distinctions. Who are we to remake distinctions &#8212; this sounds like Galatians 2:15-21.<\/div>\n<div>2. His next line is so important: &#8220;<span class=\"Apple-style-span\">So now why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?&#8221; That is: Peter is saying that we Jews could not be saved the Torah either. It was a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors could bear. He blames Jewish disobedience, not the limitation of the Torah.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\">3. Question: Do you think Peter is saying that he, Peter, is no longer following Torah? Or is he saying that they are no longer trying to be saved by keeping the Torah?<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\">4. Peter says that he &#8212; a Jew &#8212; is saved by the same means as the Gentiles: &#8220;through the grace of the Lord Jesus.&#8221;<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul is at odds with Pharisaic believers over Gentiles: how are they saved? 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