{"id":5530,"date":"2010-02-15T05:49:42","date_gmt":"2010-02-15T05:49:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2010\/02\/narrative-preaching-4.html"},"modified":"2010-02-15T05:49:42","modified_gmt":"2010-02-15T05:49:42","slug":"narrative-preaching-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2010\/02\/narrative-preaching-4.html","title":{"rendered":"Narrative Preaching 4"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/assets_c\/2010\/02\/TomLong-11321.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/120\/import\/assets_c\/2010\/02\/TomLong-thumb-250x308-11321.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"308\" alt=\"TomLong.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right;margin: 0 0 20px 20px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<div>Tom Long takes on the many, many American manifestations of the gnostic impulse in his new book,&nbsp;<em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0664234224?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0664234224\">Preaching from Memory to Hope<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0664234224\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/>.<\/strong><\/em> Some will not like this as an example, but here it is:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>&#8220;The old American revival hymn wonders about Jesus, &#8216;You ask me how I know he lives?&#8217; The hymn&#8217;s answer breathes the claustrophobic air of American piety, &#8216;He lives within my heart.&#8217; [And Tom Long&#8217;s response is priceless:] A small space indeed for the Lord of all time and space&#8221; (80).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>True, there&#8217;s an &#8220;in here&#8221; dimension to genuine faith but it&#8217;s always because there&#8217;s an &#8220;out there.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Tom Long adapts from others a list of factors at work when the gnostic spirit and the gnostic impulse arises and becomes attractive, and he&#8217;s in no doubt that is a total revision of the orthodox faith.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>1. Christian tradition is viewed as basically untrustworthy.<\/div>\n<div>2. Traditional Christianity fails the theodicy test.<\/div>\n<div>3. Christian eschatology is implausible.<\/div>\n<div>4. The core of the faith is worth saving.<\/div>\n<div>5. Christianity needs a top-down revision not small corrections.<\/div>\n<div>6. There is a hunger for more spiritual interpretation of Scripture.<\/div>\n<div>7. Conviction that there is a profound difference between ordinary church people and those who deeply understand the spiritual truth of Christianity.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>So he zeros in on Marcus Borg with this: &#8220;I do think his personal faith manifesto, recorded across several of his popular books, is not a fully adequate map for other Christians who seen an authentic faith today or for the larger church&#8221; (84-85). What Long finds is &#8220;not Jesus, but gnosticism&#8221; (85). He finds each of the seven in Borg, but this does not make Borg a gnostic.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>So here goes:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. For Borg, humanity is saved by knowledge.<\/div>\n<div>2. For Borg, there is a focus on the spiritual inner self, the divine spark within.<\/div>\n<div>3. For Borg, there is an antipathy toward incarnation and embodiment. [Extensive discussion.]<\/div>\n<div>4. For Borg, there is an emphasis on present spiritual reality rather than eschatological hope, on the God of timeless truth rather than the God who will bring history to consummation.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>By the way, Long thinks Borg&#8217;s &#8220;preEaster Jesus&#8221; has become his canonical Jesus, a point I will be making soon in a <i>Christianity Today<\/i> article. [I wonder if any readers want to examine Brian McLaren&#8217;s new book to see how many of the above seven categories it fits.]&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>So, a gnostic? To begin with, Long observes that the old orthodoxy still defines Borg because Borg&#8217;s work is a response to its categories. This point is very important, but can&#8217;t be developed. Buy the book and read the chp. Thus, he sees Borg as a combination of three features:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The piety of orthodoxy<\/div>\n<div>The honest intellectual inquiry of liberalism<\/div>\n<div>The spirituality of gnosticism.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Tom Long says Borg&#8217;s Jesus is too much like Marcus Borg himself.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The problem is that the first command to love God is mitigated; the God has become too much myself. And it mitigates loving the neighbor.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Gnosticism doesn&#8217;t just inflect the accent of our faith; it changes its grammar, distorts its memory, and makes it speak in a tongue alien to the gospel! 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