{"id":5339,"date":"2009-07-23T00:09:46","date_gmt":"2009-07-23T00:09:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/07\/plagiarizing-sermons.html"},"modified":"2009-07-23T00:09:46","modified_gmt":"2009-07-23T00:09:46","slug":"plagiarizing-sermons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/07\/plagiarizing-sermons.html","title":{"rendered":"Plagiarizing Sermons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Preaching.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/120\/import\/imgs\/Preaching.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt;float: left\" width=\"175\" height=\"202\" \/><\/span><em>A repost on a topic that is always relevant<\/em>:<br \/>\nThe <em>NY Times<\/em> ran an article about pastors swiping sermons from sermon sources, and then <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.christianitytoday.com\/outofur\/archives\/2006\/08\/word_for_word_w.html\">Out of Ur<\/a> ran a piece which got some comments. I&#8217;m wondering what you think. Here are my thoughts:<!--more|inline--><\/p>\n<p>I once was in a situation when a pastor admitted to using sermons from sermon sources, and he also said he hadn&#8217;t thought there was anything wrong with it. What most confused me about the situation was that he was using illustrations from other preachers in the first person &#8212; and you really did think these experiences were his. So far as I know, he stopped.<\/p>\n<p>What are the issues? Here&#8217;s what I see: <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<br \/>First, it is not honest. Part of the pastoral task is to preach (if<br \/>\nthat is part of your &#8220;job description&#8221;), and that means preparing their<br \/>\nown sermons. I don&#8217;t know any search committees that prefer their<br \/>\npastoral candidates and preachers to use sermon sources in order to<br \/>\nborrow or swipe sermons preached by others on a routine basis or<br \/>\nwithout acknowledgement.<\/p>\n<p>Second, the temptation is evidently strong, and I&#8217;d like to know what<br \/>\nyou think drives pastors to plagiarize sermons, but here&#8217;s what I see.<br \/>\nSometimes they don&#8217;t have the time to get a sermon ready. Sometimes<br \/>\nthey have too many sermons or talks to get ready for the week and<br \/>\nresort to using somebody else&#8217;s for one of the talks. Sometimes the<br \/>\npressure to be a good preacher is so strong the preacher is tempted to<br \/>\nuse someone else&#8217;s already-shown-to-be-good sermon. Sometimes there are<br \/>\nso many good preachers in the area swiping sermons is the only way a<br \/>\npreacher can &#8220;compete.&#8221; Sometimes a pastor&#8217;s job is on the line for how<br \/>\nhe or she preaches and they are able to postpone the inevitable with a<br \/>\nfew good sermons swiped from a source.<\/p>\n<p>Third, pastors should not subscribe to such services if they are at all<br \/>\ntempted to swipe sermons. I suppose these services are designed to help<br \/>\npastors see what good preaching looks like &#8212; but that&#8217;s another<br \/>\nseries. If the temptation is there, it is far wiser to make it<br \/>\nunavailable.<\/p>\n<p>Fourth, sermon services are partly culpable here: I&#8217;ve never been part<br \/>\nof this so I&#8217;d like to hear how they work. Do they warn of plagiarism?<br \/>\nDo they educate on the proper use? Someone will know more than I about<br \/>\nthese services.<\/p>\n<p>Fifth, what is a sermon? Well, it&#8217;s a whole life brought to bear on a<br \/>\ntext each week for a single 30 minute or so sermon before a specific<br \/>\ncongregation. It shames the preacher not to be who he or she is in the<br \/>\npulpit, and to pretend to be someone else. It de-localizes the sermon<br \/>\nfrom the local context. It distorts who the preacher is before the<br \/>\ncongregation. So, the sermon is highly biblical, highly personal,<br \/>\nhighly local, and highly temporal: it is the individual preacher<br \/>\nengaging God and Bible and congregation, in that specific location, for<br \/>\nthat time.<\/p>\n<p>Sixth, which brings up the philosophical issue: Is there not nothing<br \/>\nnew under the sun? Well said. To be sure, nearly every sermon emerges<br \/>\nfrom books and sermons and ideas and all sorts of things that were<br \/>\nused. But it is bricolage, it is quilting, it is convergence &#8212; it is<br \/>\nprecisely those things and not simple usage of others. It brings<br \/>\ntogether other people&#8217;s ideas and says so if it is substantial; but it<br \/>\nis a uniquely personal, local, and temporal bringing of those things<br \/>\ntogether. Taking someone&#8217;s sermon destroys the bricolage and turns it<br \/>\ninto a canned, deceitful act of creating a false image in front of<br \/>\nGod&#8217;s people. Now let&#8217;s be honest: sermons don&#8217;t have footnotes and<br \/>\nneed not. You need not end each separable idea with a &#8220;I got this point<br \/>\nfrom Ortberg and this one from Niebuhr and that one from Bonhoeffer.&#8221;<br \/>\nWe all use things from others in sermons, and when we use a lot from<br \/>\nsomeone about some point, we say so. By and large the congregation<br \/>\ndoesn&#8217;t care about that. But, I think they expect the preacher to be<br \/>\npreaching his or her own sermon and not someone else&#8217;s.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A repost on a topic that is always relevant: The NY Times ran an article about pastors swiping sermons from sermon sources, and then Out of Ur ran a piece which got some comments. I&#8217;m wondering what you think. 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