{"id":5318,"date":"2009-07-10T06:49:47","date_gmt":"2009-07-10T06:49:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/07\/friday-is-for-friends-t.html"},"modified":"2009-07-10T06:49:47","modified_gmt":"2009-07-10T06:49:47","slug":"friday-is-for-friends-t","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/07\/friday-is-for-friends-t.html","title":{"rendered":"Friday is for Friends: &#8220;T&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>This Friday is for Friends post is from our long-time blog friend, &#8220;T,&#8221; the one who once won a contest on this blog in which we gave away a pair of crocs. T, you still wearing them? <b>By the way, we are always looking for more submissions for our Friday is for Friends slot. I get lots of notes from folks who appreciate this open forum for our readers. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><\/i>People familiar<br \/>\nwith John Wimber and\/or the Vineyard will know <a href=\"http:\/\/www.doin-the-stuff.com\/whois.htm\">what<br \/>\n&#8220;Doin&#8217; the stuff&#8221; refers to<\/a>.&nbsp; And if you&nbsp;want a<br \/>\ngood intro to &#8216;missional&#8217; thinking, go <a href=\"http:\/\/missionalorder.com\/\">here<\/a>&nbsp;or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.friendofmissional.org\/\">here<\/a>.&nbsp;<br \/>\nBut what does &#8220;missional&#8221; have to do with &#8220;doin&#8217; the stuff&#8221;<br \/>\nthat Jesus was known for?&nbsp; Towards that question I want to throw a few<br \/>\nideas for folks in both camps to think about, because I think that the<br \/>\nmissional movement and doin&#8217; the stuff could be a match made in heaven&#8211;and<br \/>\nearth. It&#8217;s also why I have Wimber&#8217;s Prayer Model as a tab on this blog,<br \/>\nbecause I think routinely praying for people who are sick, both with the<br \/>\ncompassion of Jesus and the power and insight of the Spirit, is a pretty<br \/>\nmissional habit to pick up.<\/p>\n<p><b>T asks this question of us: Is being &#8220;missional&#8221; much easier to say than to do? And what do we really mean when we say we are being &#8220;missional&#8221; like Jesus?<\/b>&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Some specific thoughts:<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Much is made in missional circles<br \/>\nabout incarnating Christ, about being Christ, imitating him,&nbsp;right<br \/>\nwhere we are.&nbsp; Amen to that!&nbsp; It is difficult to talk honestly,<br \/>\nthough,&nbsp;absent some thick&nbsp;protective theological\/western glasses<br \/>\non, about incarnating the Jesus of the NT, about being sent by Jesus as<br \/>\nJesus was sent by the Father, without talking&#8211;a lot&#8211;about healing the<br \/>\nsick, casting out demons and having prophetic insights as we announce his<br \/>\nreign&#8211;wherever we are.&nbsp; As Wimber&#8217;s doin-the-stuff story makes<br \/>\npainfully clear, only someone with theological training and\/or church<br \/>\nexperience would read the NT and think Jesus&#8217; disciples <i>don&#8217;t<\/i> do<br \/>\nthat kind of stuff as they embody and announce him to others.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><b>Do we<br \/>\nin the missional movement&nbsp;really want to try to&nbsp;embody Christ to<br \/>\nthe broken people of the world,&nbsp;say we&#8217;re his apprentices,&nbsp;and<br \/>\nannounce&nbsp;that he is Lord above all powers&nbsp;<i>without<\/i> the kind of actions that pretty much defined Jesus&#8217;<br \/>\nown ministry and signaled the power and character of his reign?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b><br \/><\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>As much as the Vineyard become<br \/>\nfamous\/infamous for some amazing &#8216;stuff&#8217; that God would do through<br \/>\nseemingly anyone in their meetings, the meetings weren&#8217;t Wimber&#8217;s focus.&nbsp;<br \/>\nHe was disappointed that the Vineyard Movement, in his words,&nbsp;&#8216;never<br \/>\nbecame the evangelistic movement that [he] hoped&#8217; for.&nbsp; Ironically,<br \/>\nthose in the missional movement now are motivated by the same desire<br \/>\nWimber had&nbsp;to bring Jesus to &#8216;the streets&#8217;, to everyday life and<br \/>\nrelationships,&nbsp;not just &#8216;the meetings.&#8217;\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Many folks have rightly pointed out<br \/>\nthe similarities the missional movement has with Anabaptists.&nbsp; Well, if it makes anyone feel any<br \/>\nbetter, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anabaptist#Spirituality\">Anabaptists<br \/>\nwere doin&#8217; this stuff in spades at their inception<\/a>, but eventually<br \/>\nstopped, which is a surprisingly common tale for western denominations as<br \/>\nthe Enlightenment and natural human tendencies took hold.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Another valuable and obvious strand<br \/>\nwithin the &#8216;missional&#8217; movement is the conviction&nbsp;that the Church in<br \/>\nthe&nbsp;West needs&nbsp;to take the stance or mentality of missionaries<br \/>\nwithin a post-Christian\/pagan\/secular culture.&nbsp; Again, amen to<br \/>\nthat.&nbsp; If we analyze, though,&nbsp;not only Jesus&#8217; own actions as he<br \/>\npursued God&#8217;s mission, but also the initial missionaries that he sent out,<br \/>\nwe are again confronted with the role that healing, demonic expulsion and<br \/>\nthe prophetic gifts have in that work.&nbsp; Indeed, even&nbsp;in today&#8217;s<br \/>\nworld, such activity is more common in missionary work than in established<br \/>\nchurches. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Another mark of the missional<br \/>\nmovement is the shift in thinking about the gospel toward the proclamation<br \/>\nof Jesus&#8217; reign or lordship, over all other powers, about the dawning of<br \/>\nthe new age amidst the old through the cross and resurrection.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/2480503\">Dave Fitch has<br \/>\nargued<\/a> with many others that in response to this gospel that<br \/>\nmissional orders must take on practices of resistance (to the judged but<br \/>\noperating&nbsp;powers) and practices&nbsp;of engagement that reveal and<br \/>\nembody the purposes of the reign of God.&nbsp; Again, can we faithfully<br \/>\ntalk about either&#8211;as <i>Jesus&#8217;<\/i>&nbsp;disciples&#8211;without talking about<br \/>\nhealing and demonic expulsion?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>One of the &#8216;powers&#8217; that the<br \/>\nmissional movement has rightfully identified for resistance is the<br \/>\nGnosticism that continues to try to drive a wedge between the Church&#8217;s<br \/>\nwork and ministry and the good of the&nbsp;physical world.&nbsp; Another amen!<br \/>\n(and I really mean it!) Nowhere is the western Church more Gnostic,<br \/>\nthough,&nbsp;than its discomfort with the practice of divine healing of<br \/>\nthe body.&nbsp; In common western theology, the human body gets thrown in<br \/>\nthe same disdainful&nbsp;category as the rest of creation&#8211;good for<br \/>\nnothing but the fire that&#8217;s a &#8216;comin.&nbsp; Is that what we believe God&#8217;s<br \/>\nposture is to the physical body and the rest of the physical creation?&nbsp; No. God wants to heal both.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Many folks in the missional camp are<br \/>\nextremely offended by the &#8216;big-show\/big-star-religion&#8217; that seems to<br \/>\nplague the only (modern)&nbsp;&#8216;healing ministries&#8217; they&#8217;ve ever<br \/>\nseen.&nbsp; Ditto.&nbsp; But as Todd Hunter has said, the answer to<br \/>\nwrong-use isn&#8217;t no-use, it&#8217;s right-use.&nbsp; Missional churches have<br \/>\nrecognized, as have many in the Christian tradition, that power of any<br \/>\nkind can be corruptive to one&#8217;s soul.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Luke%2010:17-20;&amp;version=77;\">Unfortunately, being used as a vehicle of God&#8217;s power<br \/>\nto heal or expel demons, for instance,&nbsp;is no different<\/a>.&nbsp;<br \/>\nMissional churches, while just as human as any, because of their awareness<br \/>\nof and&nbsp;intentional practices&nbsp;against being corrupted by various<br \/>\nkinds of power that we must use in our lives and mission, are in a<br \/>\nposition to minimize corruption as they still actively&nbsp;seek God&#8217;s<br \/>\npower to help others, rather than take a practical &#8216;vow&#8217; against it in<br \/>\nfalse piety.\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nNow, I&#8217;m not<br \/>\nsaying that healing and expelling demons is all there is or should be to a<br \/>\nmissional church, regardless of how much it marked Jesus&#8217; life.&nbsp; On the<br \/>\ncontrary, I wholeheartedly believe that we still must pursue love as our<br \/>\nhighest goal, and that other practices towards those ends must be<br \/>\nprimary.&nbsp; We must become different as a matter of character, for the sake<br \/>\nof God and others, first and foremost.&nbsp; But just as we in the missional<br \/>\nmovement are seeking to reclaim those aspects of Jesus&#8217; teachings that have<br \/>\nbeen too often avoided in the West, especially regarding money, community and<br \/>\ndiscipleship, we must also ask if we are doing the same regarding his example<br \/>\nand teachings&nbsp;to heal the sick, raise the dead and cast out demons, that<br \/>\nwas so&nbsp;central to Jesus&#8217; own&nbsp;missionary work&nbsp;and that of his<br \/>\ninitial missionaries as they declared that his reign was at hand.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll post<br \/>\nsome&nbsp;practical, non-hypey&nbsp;resources about&nbsp;actually doing this<br \/>\nkind of stuff soon, within a larger missional priority structure and<br \/>\nposture.&nbsp; As always, your feedback is welcome, including<br \/>\nthe&nbsp;&#8220;you&#8217;re crazy and a heretic!&#8221; variety.&nbsp; If you want<br \/>\nanother blog from me on this issue, but from a different angle, go <a href=\"http:\/\/gettingfree.wordpress.com\/2007\/06\/25\/more-than-compassion\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Friday is for Friends post is from our long-time blog friend, &#8220;T,&#8221; the one who once won a contest on this blog in which we gave away a pair of crocs. 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