{"id":5106,"date":"2009-12-29T00:05:42","date_gmt":"2009-12-29T00:05:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/12\/universal-redemption-and-the-c.html"},"modified":"2009-12-29T00:05:42","modified_gmt":"2009-12-29T00:05:42","slug":"universal-redemption-and-the-c","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/12\/universal-redemption-and-the-c.html","title":{"rendered":"Universal Redemption and the Cosmos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"GregMacd.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/files\/import\/imgs\/GregMacd.jpg\" width=\"230\" height=\"218\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left;margin: 0 20px 20px 0\" \/>Robin Parry&#8217;s major focus, in his book&nbsp;<em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0281059888?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0281059888\">The Evangelical Universalist<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0281059888\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em>&nbsp;, is a biblical case for (evangelical belief in) universalism (not the same as pluralism). He begins by looking at a major test case: Colossians (esp 1:15-20).<\/span><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Here&#8217;s the text and one has to stand back to see the grandeur of the redemptive designs here:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"poetry\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 4px;margin-left: 1em\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\"><i>1:15<\/i><\/span><i>&nbsp;He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over <b>all creation<\/b>,<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"poetry\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 4px;margin-left: 1em\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\"><i>1:16<\/i><\/span><i>&nbsp;<b>for all things in heaven and on earth were created by him &#8211; all things, whether visible or invisible, whether thrones or dominions, whether principalities or powers &#8211; all things were created through him and for him.<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"poetry\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 4px;margin-left: 1em\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\"><i>1:17<\/i><\/span><i>&nbsp;He himself is before <b>all things and all things<\/b> are held together in him.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"poetry\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 4px;margin-left: 1em\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\"><i>1:18<\/i><\/span><i>&nbsp;He is the head of the body, the church, as well as the beginning, the firstborn from among the dead, so that he himself may become first in <b>all things<\/b>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"poetry\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 4px;margin-left: 1em\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\"><i>1:19<\/i><\/span><i>&nbsp;For God was pleased to have <b>all<\/b> his fullness dwell in the Son<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"poetry\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 4px;margin-left: 1em\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\"><i>1:20<\/i><\/span><i>&nbsp;and through him <b>to reconcile all things to himself<\/b> by making peace through the blood of his cross &#8211; through him, <b>whether things on earth or things in heaven<\/b>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>It would be easy to extend this for lines and lines but we can&#8217;t. A few observations:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. Christ created &#8220;all things&#8221; and the &#8220;all things&#8221; that are also sustained by him.&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>2. He is preeminent over all.<\/div>\n<div>3. He &#8220;reconciled&#8221; the same &#8220;all things&#8221; through his death and resurrection.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Therefore, #3 teaches redemptive universalism in Christ.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Robin Parry (aka, Gregory Macdonald) then examines how some have attempted to explain these clear lines of thinking.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. Some see a restoration of the created order, but that involves some saved and some damned.<\/div>\n<div>2. Some see this as God&#8217;s desire but not necessarily the actuality. It is God&#8217;s intent (David Powys).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The next two focus on the potentiality of the reconciliation for all:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>3. Some see the reconciliation of #3 to be conditioned by faith (Howard Marshall).<\/div>\n<div>4. Some see the reconciliation of #3 only for those who are &#8220;in Christ&#8221; (NT Wright).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Parry&#8217;s counter has to do with the permanence of the defeat of the powers and the finality of not being &#8220;in Christ&#8221; in one&#8217;s life now. His emphasis is the universal macroscopic nature of salvation in this text. The Church is the harbinger of things to come.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robin Parry&#8217;s major focus, in his book&nbsp;The Evangelical Universalist&nbsp;&nbsp;, is a biblical case for (evangelical belief in) universalism (not the same as pluralism). He begins by looking at a major test case: Colossians (esp 1:15-20). Here&#8217;s the text and one has to stand back to see the grandeur of the redemptive designs here: 1:15&nbsp;He is&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":70,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[66],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5106","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-universalism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Universal Redemption and the Cosmos - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/12\/universal-redemption-and-the-c.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Universal Redemption and the Cosmos - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Robin Parry&#8217;s major focus, in his book&nbsp;The Evangelical Universalist&nbsp;&nbsp;, is a biblical case for (evangelical belief in) universalism (not the same as pluralism). 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