{"id":5103,"date":"2009-12-28T06:37:00","date_gmt":"2009-12-28T06:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/12\/the-bible-and-universalism.html"},"modified":"2009-12-28T06:37:00","modified_gmt":"2009-12-28T06:37:00","slug":"the-bible-and-universalism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/12\/the-bible-and-universalism.html","title":{"rendered":"The Bible and Universalism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"GregMacd.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/files\/import\/imgs\/GregMacd.jpg\" width=\"230\" height=\"218\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left;margin: 0 20px 20px 0\" \/><\/span>Robin Parry&#8217;s major focus, in his book&nbsp;<em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0281059888?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0281059888\">The Evangelical Universalist<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0281059888\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/>&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em>&nbsp;, is a biblical case for (evangelical belief in) universalism (not the same as pluralism). One of the good points about this book is that Parry ponders what he&#8217;s doing &#8212; so he lays out what would be needed in order to make a biblical case for universalism.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>First, it must be positively supported by Scripture and that means (1) that it can be explicitly taught in Scripture &#8212; and he&#8217;ll look at texts like Rom 5:18; 1 Cor 15:22; Col 1:20; Phil 2:11 [not enough look at 2 Cor 5:14 but that&#8217;s another issue] and\/or (2) that it can be reasonably inferred from what is explicitly taught, a very common way our theology has been formed, and (3) that it is consistent with the biblical narrative &#8212; and he sketches a classic view: that God&#8217;s intent is to redeem all of creation [more of that later]. Furthermore, universalism can only be supported if it does not conflict with what is explicitly taught in Scripture &#8212; and he refers to the hell passages like Matt 25:45; 2 Thess 1:6-9; Rev 14:11 and 20:10-15.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>There are universalistic sounding passages (no one disputes they &#8220;sound&#8221; universalistic) and there are hell passages. Big question: <b>Why has the tradition shaped the universalistic sounding passages by the hell passages and not the other way around<\/b>?<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nParry poses three statements from Thomas Talbott that illustrate method issues &#8212; namely that Scripture can be brought in to support each but they are not equally affirmed by all:<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. It is God&#8217;s redemptive purpose for the world to reconcile all sinners to himself (Arminians, Universalists).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>2. It is within God&#8217;s power to achieve his redemptive purpose for the world (Calvnists, Universalists).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>3. Some sinners will never be reconciled &#8230; leading to endless hell or annihilation (Calvnists, Arminians).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The texts that are used to support each proposition are then interpreted by each group in light of the propositions with which they agree and think are more fundamental.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robin Parry&#8217;s major focus, in his book&nbsp;The Evangelical Universalist&nbsp;&nbsp;, is a biblical case for (evangelical belief in) universalism (not the same as pluralism). One of the good points about this book is that Parry ponders what he&#8217;s doing &#8212; so he lays out what would be needed in order to make a biblical case for&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":70,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[66],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5103","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-universalism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Bible and Universalism - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/12\/the-bible-and-universalism.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The Bible and Universalism - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Robin Parry&#8217;s major focus, in his book&nbsp;The Evangelical Universalist&nbsp;&nbsp;, is a biblical case for (evangelical belief in) universalism (not the same as pluralism). 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