{"id":46,"date":"2005-04-18T19:08:00","date_gmt":"2005-04-18T19:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2005\/04\/da-carson-and-the-emergent-mov.html"},"modified":"2005-04-18T19:08:00","modified_gmt":"2005-04-18T19:08:00","slug":"da-carson-and-the-emergent-mov","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2005\/04\/da-carson-and-the-emergent-mov.html","title":{"rendered":"DA Carson and the Emergent Movement, Part 8"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n<p>The final chapter of DA Carson\u2019s book is a biblical meditation on Truth and Experience, and largely a gentle, but well-informed, commentary on 2 Peter 1. Here\u2019s his opening line:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA good deal of the discussion of this book could be recast as a debate between the claims of truth and the claims of experience\u201d (218). For the traditionalist, there is an emphasis on truth-claims, but with the Emergent movement there is not. But DA Carson knows there is plenty of appeal to experience in the Bible \u2013 though for some odd reason he fails here to bring in Jonathan Edwards nearly unsurpassable brilliant book, Religious Affections.<\/p>\n<p>2 Peter 1 works both truth claims and experience together. Let me give you the big picture. For \u201cexperience,\u201d there is a reality of experience being grounded in God\u2019s power (1:3-4), attested by spiritual growth and productivity (1:5-8), and attested by our unflagging perseverance (1:9-11). Look the passages up and read them for yourself.<\/p>\n<p>And on \u201ctruth,\u201d he makes these points: our confidence in the truth is stabilized by constant review (1:12-15), established on historical witness (1:16-18), and grounded in biblical revelation (1:19-21).<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s something I\u2019ve not heard from DA Carson and I\u2019ve talked with on and off (except when he was off on sabbatical, which was not infrequent) since the early 1980s: \u201cDamn all false antitheses to hell, for they generate false gods, they perpetuate idols, they twist and distort our souls, they launch the church into violent pendulum swings whose oscillations succeed only in dividing brothers and sisters in Christ\u201d (234).<\/p>\n<p>My only questions will \u201cemerge\u201d in my last installment, which will be my take on this debate.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;padding-bottom: 0.25em\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The final chapter of DA Carson\u2019s book is a biblical meditation on Truth and Experience, and largely a gentle, but well-informed, commentary on 2 Peter 1. 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