{"id":4420,"date":"2009-02-20T13:00:11","date_gmt":"2009-02-20T13:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2009\/02\/is-the-jesus-creed-community-a.html"},"modified":"2009-02-20T13:00:11","modified_gmt":"2009-02-20T13:00:11","slug":"is-the-jesus-creed-community-a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2009\/02\/is-the-jesus-creed-community-a.html","title":{"rendered":"Is the Jesus Creed community a &#8220;community&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>Recently a gifted young anabaptist pastor, <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.christianitytoday.com\/outofur\/archives\/2009\/02\/video_ur_shane.html\">Shane Hipps, weighed in at Out of Ur blog <\/a>about whether or not cyberspace provides &#8220;community.&#8221; He says &#8220;No&#8221; and I&#8217;m wondering what you think? Here is my response. Can &#8220;community&#8221; exist in cyberspace? In what senses can it and in what senses can it not?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Your point about not equating virtual community (grant me the<br \/>\nterm for the moment) with real community is one that needs to be heard.<br \/>\nBut, I&#8217;m not so sure it is this simple&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>First, as a blogger who has what I have sometimes called the Jesus<br \/>\nCreed &#8220;community,&#8221; I do think there are some senses in which community<br \/>\nis apt. For some, this is about the only &#8220;community&#8221; with Christians<br \/>\nthey can right now have. I honor that. For others it is therapeutic to<br \/>\ndance, as it were, at a distance &#8212; not the complete thing, of course,<br \/>\nbut still participating in some dimensions of community. And there is<br \/>\nanother dimension: there are clearly dimensions of fellowship at work<br \/>\nin blog communities. Never the whole, but some. And that needs to be<br \/>\nconsidered for what it really is.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>But now something perhaps more significant: by shrinking community<br \/>\nto embodied community I wonder if we have written &#8220;communion of the<br \/>\nsaints&#8221; (a community) off the map. Isn&#8217;t there something eternal,<br \/>\nsomething spiritual, and something profoundly true that all Christians<br \/>\nof all ages and of all locations are in communion with one another? \n<\/p>\n<p>\nThis means it may be appropriate to refer to internet communities as a<br \/>\nparticipation in the communion of the saints (I have experienced this<br \/>\nwith some folks whom I&#8217;ve gotten to know at some levels via internet<br \/>\nand via e-mails and via parcel post letters) and as virtual<br \/>\ncommunities. <\/p>\n<p>I would agree with you that some substitute virtual for real at<br \/>\ntheir own loss; I would also agree that some think they are the same.<br \/>\nBut I wonder if it is not swinging too far the other way to deny the<br \/>\nword community to what can happen &#8212; palpably so for many &#8212; in<br \/>\ncyberspace.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently a gifted young anabaptist pastor, Shane Hipps, weighed in at Out of Ur blog about whether or not cyberspace provides &#8220;community.&#8221; He says &#8220;No&#8221; and I&#8217;m wondering what you think? 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