{"id":3675,"date":"2008-06-02T00:30:42","date_gmt":"2008-06-02T00:30:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/first-day-is-goldingay-13.html"},"modified":"2008-06-02T00:30:42","modified_gmt":"2008-06-02T00:30:42","slug":"first-day-is-goldingay-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/06\/first-day-is-goldingay-13.html","title":{"rendered":"First Day is Goldingay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We are working through John Goldingay&#8217;s multi-volumed &#8220;First Testament&#8221; theology, and we are in volume 2 &#8212; <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FOld-Testament-Theology-Israels-Faith%2Fdp%2F0830825622%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1212333829%26sr%3D1-3&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">Israel&#8217;s Faith<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em>. The first theme in Israel&#8217;s faith is God, and this chp &#8212; 151 pages long! &#8212; is worth the price of both of the books. I want to provide a brief sketch of the major ideas canvassed in this chp, though I&#8217;ll focus on pp 96ff because that is where we stopped last month.<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nHe sketches Yhwh&#8217;s presence, love, hostility, and the two sides to Yhwh&#8217;s person and activity. Excellent, and if you are keen on doing a series on God in the First Testament, this would be a great place to start and also a good outline for a series. Goldingay&#8217;s approach to say what he sees and not to say what he believes (or what evangelicals are taught to believe).<br \/>\nA question for us: What do we mean when we say God is &#8220;present&#8221;? Maybe these ideas from Goldingay can trigger your response. What do we mean when we say God is &#8220;absent&#8221;? Do we believe God can be &#8220;absent&#8221;? In what senses?<br \/>\nHow is God present?<br \/>\nAccompanying presence: with God&#8217;s people.<br \/>\nSettled, local divine presence: particular places (Ex 33:7-11)<br \/>\nAttentive presence: God listens (Ps 50)<br \/>\nActive presence: results show God&#8217;s presence (Ps 18; 97)<br \/>\nNarrative presence: tells the story (Ps 63:2)<br \/>\nPersonal presence: Gen 18.<br \/>\nIntense presence: Exod 40:34-38<br \/>\nAnd God can be absent in an accompanying, attentive, personal absence.<br \/>\n&#8220;Everyone knows that the OT God is a God of wrath; the NT God a God of love. Oh no they don&#8217;t&#8221; (108). Maybe the best section I&#8217;ve read in the two volumes of his work. Here are some themes he sketches about God&#8217;s love in the OT &#8230; and there is discussion for each and I can&#8217;t include but one reference for each:<br \/>\n1. Fatherly dedication (Mal 1:6).<br \/>\n2. Parental &#8220;carrier&#8221; (Jer 1:5; Isa 44:2, 24; 4;9:5)<br \/>\n3. Motherly compassion (Deut 32:18)<br \/>\n4. Attentiveness (Ps 79:5-9)<br \/>\n5. Mercy (Isa 57:14-21)<br \/>\n6. Healing (Isa 57:14-21 again)<br \/>\n7. Commitment (Ps 62)<br \/>\n8. True faithfulness (Ps 31:5)<br \/>\n9. Passion (Ezek 16:8)<br \/>\n10. Cleansing (Ps 51:2; Ezek 16:63)<br \/>\n11. Carrying (Ps 85:2-3)<br \/>\n12. Getting over (Mic 7:18)<br \/>\n13. Pardon (Jer 36:3)<br \/>\n14. Risk (Gen 22:1, 12)<br \/>\n15. Sadness (Hos 6:4)<br \/>\n16. Letdown (Jer 26:3)<br \/>\n17. Grief (Gen 6:5-6)<br \/>\nWell, alongside this sketch of themes in God&#8217;s love, Goldingay has a sketch of God&#8217;s hostility: weary skepticism, hiddenness\/withdrawal\/absence, anger, rage, redress, self-assertion, repudiation, ruthlessness, slayer, warrior, enemy, vintner.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are working through John Goldingay&#8217;s multi-volumed &#8220;First Testament&#8221; theology, and we are in volume 2 &#8212; Israel&#8217;s Faith. 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