{"id":364,"date":"2005-09-23T12:34:01","date_gmt":"2005-09-23T12:34:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2005\/09\/old-poll-new-poll.html"},"modified":"2005-09-23T12:34:01","modified_gmt":"2005-09-23T12:34:01","slug":"old-poll-new-poll","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2005\/09\/old-poll-new-poll.html","title":{"rendered":"Old Poll, New Poll"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>The Confessions<\/em> of St. Augustine has won. I must admit I&#8217;m surprised by this, mostly because I wasn&#8217;t aware that many had read it. I read it deeply in college, found the last few chapter boring beyond boring. Two or so years ago I read it thoroughly again. Apart from those last couple of chapters, I loved it again.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m glad for <em>Pilgrim&#8217;s Progress<\/em> because my read of our day is that not many read it anymore. I&#8217;ve read Griffin&#8217;s new (hilarious) translation in the last couple of years of <em>Imitation of Christ<\/em>, but I prefer Blaiklock&#8217;s translation. I thought the Calvinists would seize their chance here and vote in Edward&#8217;s <em>Religious Affections<\/em>, which is one of my favorites of all time.<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nThe next poll is an emerging movement question: what is the ideal size of a &#8220;church&#8221; or &#8220;gathering&#8221; (if that is what you prefer) for you? Please don&#8217;t get into quibbling here. If you prefer a certain size church but also another size for a gathering, you&#8217;re mucking up my poll. I have in mind simply this question: what is your ideal size for a church, or if you prefer it to be called a gathering, what is the ideal size?<br \/>\nI don&#8217;t know the exact numbers the church growth folks use, so I&#8217;ve given my own. 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