{"id":3424,"date":"2008-04-07T00:30:52","date_gmt":"2008-04-07T00:30:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2008\/04\/yet-another-letter.html"},"modified":"2008-04-07T00:30:52","modified_gmt":"2008-04-07T00:30:52","slug":"yet-another-letter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/04\/yet-another-letter.html","title":{"rendered":"Yet Another Letter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>A letter which the young candidate would like discussed<\/em>:<br \/>\nDear Scot,<br \/>\nI am 34 (10 years part time youth ministry experience) and currently in discussion with a local congregation about joining their staff as FT Youth Pastor.<br \/>\nDuring my first meeting with the Elders I was asked, &#8220;What would you say to a 15 year old boy that asks, ?How do I get to Heaven??&#8221;<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nNow we had just been discussing the legalistic views of my spiritual heritage and so I incorrectly assumed that this was a ?test question? to see if I was legalistic in regards to the role of baptism. So our discussion took off on a tangent and was not resolved.<br \/>\nAs the discussion stands today ? this elder is still not convinced that I am ?Evangelical enough.? At our next meeting this discussion will continue.<br \/>\nNow that I know it is not a ?test question? for baptism, but it is a test question for evangelism ? something emerging Christians have been critiqued for.<br \/>\nMy honest answer to this fictitious 15 year old, ?I believe you may be asking the wrong question.?<br \/>\nThis will not satisfy this elder. I know he wants to hear, ?confess and believe and say a little prayer? and I believe that everyone should confess their sins. I believe that Jesus died to reconcile us to God. I believe that everyone should repent (turn from their way of living and turn to God?s way of living). I just don?t have a formula (and refuse to have a formula) for leading a fictitious person to salvation. I prefer conversation, questions and dialogue, partially because that is what I see Jesus doing. My other reason for disliking formulas (i.e. Romans Road) is what it teaches my fictitious friend about reading and understanding the Bible ? you need to know what order to read the passages in to understand it?. Most formulas I have seen have at least two additional faults; they do not respect the context of the verse being quoted and\/ or they do not take into account the whole teaching on the subject of &#8220;coming to Christ.&#8221; They focus on an assent to knowledge. Assent to knowledge doesn?t necessarily lead to changed behaviors.<br \/>\nOkay so now you understand my context. What would you suggest?<br \/>\nHere are the options as I see them:<br \/>\n1) I come out completely honest about the questions I am asking about our conventional understanding of God. Here I risk loosing this job. Fortunately, I have a well paying and semi-rewarding &#8220;secular&#8221; job. I also loose the opportunity to participate with this community as the &#8220;begin this new phase&#8221; of their existence. (This community is at the end of one life cycle and the leadership (lay, elders, and pastors) are on the verge of beginning a new life cycle for this congregation.)<br \/>\n2) Tell this elder what he wants to hear and then attempt to covertly lead this congregation through this change. (This seems dishonest to me and I am not comfortable with it).<br \/>\n3) Something in the middle. I come clean to a point by raising questions. This allows them some insight into my thinking without sounding like a heretic. I like this option because I do feel called to be a leader of change (which explains my secular job of Lean manufacturing) in all systems, but it historically this has not gone well for me in other ministry settings. I have grown through these bad experiences, but am I willing to risk the pain and hurt again? Do I want this for my family?<br \/>\n4) Just forget it. Politely withdraw from these discussions and express my non-interest in this position. What reason will I give? And then what? I seldom sit at home or church and think about manufacturing things better, but here I sit at work thinking and electronically conversing about ministry. I feel called to ministry.<br \/>\nI look forward to the thoughts and questions of this community.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A letter which the young candidate would like discussed: Dear Scot, I am 34 (10 years part time youth ministry experience) and currently in discussion with a local congregation about joining their staff as FT Youth Pastor. 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