{"id":3419,"date":"2008-03-31T00:30:07","date_gmt":"2008-03-31T00:30:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2008\/03\/reforming-5.html"},"modified":"2008-03-31T00:30:07","modified_gmt":"2008-03-31T00:30:07","slug":"reforming-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/03\/reforming-5.html","title":{"rendered":"Reforming 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Chp 2 of Roger Olson, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FReformed-Always-Reforming-Postconservative-Evangelical%2Fdp%2F0801031699%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1204810480%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">Reformed and Always Reforming<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em>, is about &#8220;Christianity&#8217;s Essence&#8221; and his concern is &#8220;transformation over information.&#8221;<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nHe begins with conservative evangelicalism&#8217;s identification of the essence, and here he sees an entry point in calling Cons Evang &#8220;post-fundamentalist evangelicals&#8221; (68). Both Joel Carpenter and George Marsden focused on showing how evangelicalism was a reform of fundamentalism. Postconservatives are doing the same: reforming evangelicalism.<br \/>\nWhy? Because &#8220;there is no final stopping place in the process of ongoing correction and reform short of the return of Jesus Christ&#8221; (69). But, postcons think cons evangelicals are &#8220;too obsessed with the cognitive and intellectual sides of the gospel and of Christian existence&#8221; (69). I&#8217;d like you to read that carefully: it is not an either\/or or a false dichotomy Olson is drawing here; instead, it is emphasis. Postcons want to correct this &#8220;one-sidedness.&#8221;<br \/>\nAnd, of course, postcons have been accused of a slippery slope. Olson says back: &#8220;it is a vicious calumny unjustified by any fair reading of the works of postconservatives&#8221; (69).<br \/>\nMillard Erickson says the &#8220;doctrinal component is a major component of Christianity&#8230; [and it] will be regarded as the most important permanent element&#8221; (70). That is what Olson is talking about. Yes, Erickson and cons evangs do believe in transformation; and postcons believe in doctrine. The question is one of emphasis.<br \/>\nDA Carson is another example in Olson&#8217;s illustrations of conservative evangelical emphasis on doctrinal content as the essence of Christianity. Carson: &#8220;the historic gospel is unavoidably cast as intellectual content that must be taught and proclaimed&#8221; (71). Again, he is fair with Carson: &#8220;Scripture&#8217;s purpose is not simply to fill our heads with facts, but to bring us to the living God&#8221; (72). But, Olson thinks the burden of both Erickson and Carson &#8212; do you think he is accurate here? &#8212; &#8220;is to preserve and protect the cognitive doctrinal content of historic evangelicalism &#8212; evangelical orthodoxy &#8212; as its permanent, enduring, and unchanging essence&#8221; (72).<br \/>\nIs conservative evangelicalism&#8217;s emphasis on doctrinal content? And is its emphasis an overemphasis?<br \/>\nNext post: postconservativism&#8217;s &#8220;experiential impulse&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chp 2 of Roger Olson, Reformed and Always Reforming, is about &#8220;Christianity&#8217;s Essence&#8221; and his concern is &#8220;transformation over information.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":298,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3419","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evangelicalism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Reforming 5 - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/03\/reforming-5.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Reforming 5 - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Chp 2 of Roger Olson, Reformed and Always Reforming, is about &#8220;Christianity&#8217;s Essence&#8221; 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