{"id":3408,"date":"2008-04-01T00:20:37","date_gmt":"2008-04-01T00:20:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2008\/04\/first-day-is-goldingay-11.html"},"modified":"2008-04-01T00:20:37","modified_gmt":"2008-04-01T00:20:37","slug":"first-day-is-goldingay-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/04\/first-day-is-goldingay-11.html","title":{"rendered":"First Day is Goldingay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>John Goldingay ends the preface to volume 2 of his OT Theology (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FOld-Testament-Theology-Israels-Faith%2Fdp%2F0830825622%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1206737922%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">OT Theology: Israel&#8217;s Faith<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em>) with a zinger that I find to be so, so true: he gives credit to readers who have saved him &#8220;from some of my more outlandish statements. I hope some remain.&#8221; They do, and they come in his Introduction.<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nHere&#8217;s how he gets us going: &#8220;First, Christ did not come primarily to reveal something new&#8230;. Christ came to do something, not to reveal something&#8230;. So did Jesus say nothing new? &#8230; In this story First Testament faith finds its ultimate expression. But the New Testament makes less difference to that faith than people think&#8230;. And thus we can study the theology of the First Testament separately from that of the New Testament without losing too much &#8212; and certainly without losing as much as we do if we follow the church&#8217;s practice of studying the New Testament separately from the First Testament, which it allegedly regards as Scripture&#8221; (18-20).<br \/>\nWell, what do you think of those observations?<br \/>\nWhatever you think of them, here&#8217;s some points from the first 80 or so pages. [The 1st chp is about 170 pages long; where&#8217;s Dan Reid when we need him telling John to shorten his chps?] Well, after all, Goldingay might come back, &#8220;It is is about God!&#8221;<br \/>\nThe assumption of the First Testament is that there is one God and that God&#8217;s name is YHWH. The often-made point that God is unknowable &#8212; apophatic theology and its variants &#8212; is not quite the way we find it in the Bible: this God is knowable and becomes known in what is said and what is done. Holiness in the FT [=First Testament] does not create dread so much as does God&#8217;s majesty. Majesty is the outward expression of God&#8217;s holiness.<br \/>\nThe &#8220;eternality&#8221; of God is about God spanning history more than speculation about foreverness. God as &#8220;Creator&#8221; is more about God&#8217;s ongoing creation than just about God making things all at once long, long ago.<br \/>\nMonotheism is Enlightenment stuff; the FT teaches Mono-Yahwism. Yhwh alone is the deliverer and liberator. The big issue is not arithmetical &#8212; there is only one God &#8212; but &#8220;Whom are you treating as God?&#8221; (40).<br \/>\nAnyone who reads the FT carefully will see Yhwh&#8217;s aides and representatives and rivals, and this is one of the only books you will find that deals with this theme &#8212; doesn&#8217;t Goldingay like that which cuts across the grain? &#8212; as thoroughly, interestingly, honestly, and carefully as does Goldingay. These other deities, he says, exist but they don&#8217;t count as God. Deut 32:8-9 teaches the reality, sees these lesser deities as appointed by God, and sees them as governing other nations. [For our readers, Gerry McDermott&#8217;s book, <em>God&#8217;s Rivals<\/em>, dealt with this in the context of world religions.]<br \/>\nGod&#8217;s gender? &#8220;The FT avoids bringing sexuality into its portrait of Yhwh. &#8216;He&#8217; is neither &#8216;man&#8217; nor &#8216;woman&#8217; (Deut 4:6) [citing Gerstenberger]&#8221; (47).<br \/>\nYhwh frequently is embodied in representatives.<br \/>\nVery good section on &#8220;the Satan&#8221; &#8212; the accusing angel in the divine cabinet\/council. Here is what Goldingay says:<br \/>\n&#8220;&#8216;The adversary&#8217; is not a supernatural being with power over against Yhwh. His authority is strictly circumscribed. He can accuse, but he cannot judge (Zech 3). He can tempt, but he cannot overwhelm; he requires human cooperation (1 Chron 21). He can test, but only within boundaries that God allows (Job 1-2)&#8221; (55).<br \/>\nThen he has a lengthy and comprehensive section on Yhwh&#8217;s Lordship &#8212; over earth, over Israel, &#8230; and then comes to freedom and flexibility.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>John Goldingay ends the preface to volume 2 of his OT Theology (OT Theology: Israel&#8217;s Faith) with a zinger that I find to be so, so true: he gives credit to readers who have saved him &#8220;from some of my more outlandish statements. I hope some remain.&#8221; They do, and they come in his Introduction.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":298,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[44],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3408","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-biblical-studies"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>First Day is Goldingay - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/04\/first-day-is-goldingay-11.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"First Day is Goldingay - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"John Goldingay ends the preface to volume 2 of his OT Theology (OT Theology: Israel&#8217;s Faith) with a zinger that I find to be so, so true: he gives credit to readers who have saved him &#8220;from some of my more outlandish statements. 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