{"id":3385,"date":"2008-03-24T00:30:10","date_gmt":"2008-03-24T00:30:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2008\/03\/reforming-3.html"},"modified":"2008-03-24T00:30:10","modified_gmt":"2008-03-24T00:30:10","slug":"reforming-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/03\/reforming-3.html","title":{"rendered":"Reforming 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Two streams flow into Evangelicalism today according to Roger Olson in his fine new study, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FReformed-Always-Reforming-Postconservative-Evangelical%2Fdp%2F0801031699%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1204810480%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">Reformed and Always Reforming<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em>. Here are the two streams, and they derive also from the fine studies of Mark Noll, the Dean of American Church history and evangelicalism:Pietism and Puritanism.<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nMany today, like John Piper in his recent statement (and I will be responding to him soon), really do think the Puritan strain is the only genuine evangelical strain and that the Pietists are Romantics or Liberals or something else (like Arminians).<br \/>\nPietism adds a strong experiential dimension to classic Protestantism according to Olson (47). Pietism is inwardly focused and tends toward synergism, as seen in Arminianism. This looks back to John Wesley.<br \/>\nPuritanism adds a strong intellectual dimension and it tends to be publicly focused and is Reformed and Calvinistic. These folks look back to Jonathan Edwards. Here is a picture of Edwards and John Winthrop, a Puritan.<br \/>\n<a class=\"imagelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jesuscreed.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/jonathan_edwards.jpg\" title=\"jonathan_edwards.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jesuscreed.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/jonathan_edwards.thumbnail.jpg\" alt=\"jonathan_edwards.jpg\" \/><\/a><a class=\"imagelink\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jesuscreed.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/463px-john_winthrop.jpg\" title=\"463px-john_winthrop.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jesuscreed.org\/2008\/03\/463px-john_winthrop.thumbnail.jpg\" alt=\"463px-john_winthrop.jpg\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nEvangelicalism arose out of both of these &#8212; it is the (Hegelian) synthesis as it were. From the start it was &#8220;full of tension&#8221; but marked by a conviction that God could transform sinners. To these two streams was added, from Protestant scholasticism, a focus on &#8220;correct doctriune and orthodoxy.&#8221;<br \/>\nOlson says evangelicalism is therefore an &#8220;unstable compound.&#8221;<br \/>\nThe Puritan stream: &#8220;Typical of this strand of evangelicalism is the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals that publishes <em>Modern Reformation<\/em> magazine. These evangelicals wince at popular revivalism, synergistic folk religion, and progressive evangelical thinkers who experiment with new ways of thinking about God, the Bible, and salvation&#8221; (49).<br \/>\nThe Pietistic stream: They &#8220;revel in transforming experiences of God&#8217;s Spirit, Jesus-piety, and a sometimes seemingly cavalier attitude toward tradition.&#8221;<br \/>\nThe vast bulk of evangelicalism is in between these two poles, though today we are seeing an increasingly aggressive stance taken by the Puritan stream in the Neo-Reformed movement.<br \/>\nWhat then is evangelicalism?<br \/>\nMark Noll: &#8220;a large kin network of churches, voluntary societies, books and periodicals, personal networks, and emphases of beliefs and practice.&#8221;<br \/>\nRoger Olson: &#8220;a vast and diverse collection of individuals, churches, and groups.&#8221;<br \/>\nNathan Hatch: &#8220;There is no such thing as evangelicalism.&#8221; It is too decentralized.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two streams flow into Evangelicalism today according to Roger Olson in his fine new study, Reformed and Always Reforming. Here are the two streams, and they derive also from the fine studies of Mark Noll, the Dean of American Church history and evangelicalism:Pietism and Puritanism.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":298,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3385","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evangelicalism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Reforming 3 - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2008\/03\/reforming-3.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Reforming 3 - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Two streams flow into Evangelicalism today according to Roger Olson in his fine new study, Reformed and Always Reforming. 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