{"id":2954,"date":"2007-12-04T00:30:47","date_gmt":"2007-12-04T00:30:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2007\/12\/the-crucifixion-of-ministry-6.html"},"modified":"2007-12-04T00:30:47","modified_gmt":"2007-12-04T00:30:47","slug":"the-crucifixion-of-ministry-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/12\/the-crucifixion-of-ministry-6.html","title":{"rendered":"The Crucifixion of Ministry 6"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We close our survey of Andrew Purves, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FCrucifixion-Ministry-Surrendering-Ambitions-Service%2Fdp%2F0830834397%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1194987519%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">The Crucifixion of Ministry<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em>, with today&#8217;s post &#8230; but on Thursday I&#8217;ll offer a brief critical interaction with the book. This chp gets down to brass tacks with what ministry, when conceived as union with Christ, looks like on a daily basis. <!--more|inline--><br \/>\nThe chp is called &#8220;Having Hitched a Ride: Ministry Today.&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8220;From the beginning of my ministry I have known that the discipline of pastoral theology has largely lost its way, finding its identity in pastoral counseling theories and practices&#8221; (123).<br \/>\nFirst, it begins with our own formation in Christ, and here Purves speaks of classical spiritual disciplines and appeals to writings like Gregory the Great&#8217;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FGreat-Gregory-Select-Library-Christian%2Fdp%2FB000VQJ5U4%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1196610498%26sr%3D1-9&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">Pastoral Care<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em> and Richard Baxter&#8217;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fsearch%2F%3Fsearch-alias%3Dstripbooks%26unfiltered%3D1%26field-keywords%3D%26field-author%3Dbaxter%252C%2Brichard%26field-title%3Dthe%2Breformed%2Bpastor%26field-isbn%3D%26field-publisher%3D%26node%3D%26url%3D%26field-binding%3D%26field-subject%3D%26field-language%3D%26field-dateop%3D%26field-dateyear%3D%26sort%3Drelevancerank%26Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.x%3D0%26Adv-Srch-Books-Submit.y%3D0&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">The Reformed Pastor<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em> and Eugene Peterson&#8217;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FFive-Smooth-Stones-Pastoral-Work%2Fdp%2F0802806600%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1196610843%26sr%3D1-1&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">Five Smooth Stones<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\" \/><\/em>.<br \/>\nEvery ministry is constrained by the ministry of Christ. The issue is always to discern the Lord&#8217;s actual ministry at work.<br \/>\n1. Announce the love of God. God is love, therefore all ministry announces the love of God. Here is his way of putting it: &#8220;Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus who is God loves you.<br \/>\n2. Care for the person: the quality of relationship matters because theological discernment can only arise out of that relationship.<br \/>\nThree ways:<br \/>\na. Bearing witness to Christ: preaching isn&#8217;t an occasional task; it is the center of everything we do (he says). We bear witness. &#8220;The defining matter of the church&#8217;s life is not to convert and bring people to faith (the evangelical heresy!) or to bring in the ethical commonwealth (the liberal heresy!). The defining matter for the church&#8217;s life &#8230; is to bear witness to Jesus Christ&#8221; (132). This means looking for the declarative moment, but it is not the same as didactic\/teaching. One must discern to join the person&#8217;s life and the gospel of Jesus Christ.<br \/>\nb. Interpreting the life situation: not developed extensively, but his point seems to be to help others discern the presence of Christ and the significance of the gospel for the individual person&#8217;s life.<br \/>\nc. Symbolic action: again, not developed, but he believes in sacramental acts and symbols as significant for pastoral care.<br \/>\nThursday I&#8217;ll give some critical interaction.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We close our survey of Andrew Purves, The Crucifixion of Ministry, with today&#8217;s post &#8230; but on Thursday I&#8217;ll offer a brief critical interaction with the book. 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