{"id":273,"date":"2005-07-30T19:35:00","date_gmt":"2005-07-30T19:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2005\/07\/postcalvinism-consequences.html"},"modified":"2005-07-30T19:35:00","modified_gmt":"2005-07-30T19:35:00","slug":"postcalvinism-consequences","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2005\/07\/postcalvinism-consequences.html","title":{"rendered":"Post-Calvinism: Consequences"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n<p>I am reflecting here in a series of posts on how &#8220;I changed my mind&#8221; about Calvinism and adopted a more Ariminian view of whether or not the Christian can throw away redemption.<\/p>\n<p>This journey took through the book of Hebrews, where I suggested we can find four elements to each Warning Passage. Today I want to look briefly at the fourth element, the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">consequences<\/span>. Very few will disagree with this (I hope).<\/p>\n<p>The first comment is in Heb 2:2: &#8220;How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?&#8221; The implied answer is &#8220;There is no way of escape.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Here are some more to consider:<\/p>\n<p>3:11: They will not enter my rest.<br \/>6:4-6: It is impossible to renew them unto repentance (cf. 12:16-17).<br \/>10:26: no sacrifice for sins remains.<br \/>10:27: but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.<br \/>10:28: died without mercy.<br \/>10:30-31: And again, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153The Lord will judge his people.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d  31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.<br \/>10:39:    destruction.<\/p>\n<p>If we accept the proposal that the Warning Passages are dealing with the same subjects, etc., then we can synthesize this evidence into this conclusion: the author of Hebrews warns a specific group of people about some sin and tells them that if they commit that sin they will find themselves outside the company of God. They will be diminished.<\/p>\n<p>Not let us say what the text says: here is an extreme warning about dire consequences in eternity.<\/p>\n<p>Plenty of room here for theological debate: what Hebrews says is consistent with both the traditional\/orthodox view of eternal separation from God as well as the more recent views of some British Evangelicals on annihilationism. For that matter, I&#8217;m sure my Roman Catholic theological friends would tell me this is also consistent with purgatory. We&#8217;ll drop that for now (someday, though). The warning of Hebrews is extreme. This isn&#8217;t about a breakdown of fellowship but about the great divorce.<\/p>\n<p>Tomorrow, a blog on the exhortation the author gives to his audience.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both;padding-bottom: 0.25em\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am reflecting here in a series of posts on how &#8220;I changed my mind&#8221; about Calvinism and adopted a more Ariminian view of whether or not the Christian can throw away redemption. This journey took through the book of Hebrews, where I suggested we can find four elements to each Warning Passage. 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