{"id":2421,"date":"2007-07-24T00:20:56","date_gmt":"2007-07-24T00:20:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2007\/07\/analogies-to-church.html"},"modified":"2007-07-24T00:20:56","modified_gmt":"2007-07-24T00:20:56","slug":"analogies-to-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/07\/analogies-to-church.html","title":{"rendered":"Analogies to &#8220;church&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What is the best analogy to &#8220;church&#8221;? In Kester Brewin&#8217;s newly-republished book, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.abunga.com\/details\/?ean=9780801068089&amp;affkey=826D777A-128C-465B-8B07-B193508149DB\">Signs of Emergence<\/a>: A Vision for the Church that is Organic\/Networked\/Decentralized\/Bottom-up\/Communal\/Flexible {Always Evolving}<\/em> (Baker, 2007), the analogy of an organism that emerges is preferred. In this book &#8212; with a cute title &#8212; we have a theory of emergence that lies behind the way many are using the word &#8220;emerging&#8221; in the emerging movement today. <!--more|inline--><br \/>\nThree quotations might put the whole book in view. What do you think of these comments?<br \/>\n1. &#8220;To blame the demise of the church on personal holiness is a dangerous and wrong position. I believe that rather than focusing on changing our individual lives, we need to change our corporate practice. New wine is currently being wasted by ruptured wineskins&#8221; (21).<br \/>\n2. &#8220;If the people who built the railroads in the United States were actually interesting in transporting people, they would now own the airlines&#8221; (21).<br \/>\nThe first quotation explains the real problem at the systemic level; the second explains the current problem on being stuck in an old system where we are simply trying to revive it rather than realize that we&#8217;ve moved on.<br \/>\n3. &#8220;&#8230; rather than trying to import culture into church and make it &#8216;cool,&#8217; we need instead to become &#8216;wombs of the divine&#8217; and completely rebirth the church into a host culture&#8221; (92).<br \/>\nHere are some central theses at work in this book:<br \/>\n1. Overall, he contends we need to get to a &#8220;Conjunctive Church&#8221; as outlined in James Fowler&#8217;s stages of faith where we learn to hold truth as something that is expressed in a number of ways. [He uses Fowler too much for me &#8212; and because he does the brief discussion of Fowler is not enough.]<br \/>\n2. We need to wait as emergence happens; we need to let God give birth in us to a new vision and new emergence of God&#8217;s work in our world; we need to let emergence grow from the bottom up. [I kept saying to myself: &#8220;Give me something concrete, brother.&#8221;]<br \/>\n3. Emergent systems are open, adaptable, learning systems, have distributed knowledge, and are noted by servant leadership.<br \/>\n4. Finally, he seeks to see the church emerge in cities, where &#8220;gift&#8221; is central rather than a consumer culture (&#8220;I got something out of the service&#8221;), and where &#8220;dirt&#8221; is present &#8212; that is, the boundary between the clean and unclean is no longer observed.<br \/>\nWell, if you want a good grip on what &#8220;emergence&#8221; means in the wider emerging movement, this is the book. It explains why the word &#8220;emergent&#8221; is the central word. I wish more critics were aware of how important this word is to the movement. There is something going on, at the grassroots level; it is not known what it is entirely and where it will lead &#8212; but something is emerging. That idea is important to the movement for many.<br \/>\nThis book was published in England a few years back with the title <em>The Complex Christ<\/em>.<br \/>\nI have some issues with the book:<br \/>\n1. I&#8217;d like a rationale of why Brewin thinks we need to change &#8212; or at least I&#8217;d like to see that rationale expounded more completely.<br \/>\n2. For some odd reason there is little attention to the &#8220;emerging&#8221; church called the Early Church and how it emerged out of the kingdom movement of Jesus. So why not some attention to Acts 1-15? Or to how someone like Paul or Peter pastored &#8220;emerging&#8221; churches?<br \/>\n3. I&#8217;d like to see some attention to the Pauline church with its radical emphasis on spiritual gifts and body life and evident lack of some hierarchy, esp as seen in 1 Cor 12-14.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is the best analogy to &#8220;church&#8221;? In Kester Brewin&#8217;s newly-republished book, Signs of Emergence: A Vision for the Church that is Organic\/Networked\/Decentralized\/Bottom-up\/Communal\/Flexible {Always Evolving} (Baker, 2007), the analogy of an organism that emerges is preferred. 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