{"id":2311,"date":"2007-06-21T01:20:40","date_gmt":"2007-06-21T01:20:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2007\/06\/when-student-becomes-friend.html"},"modified":"2007-06-21T01:20:40","modified_gmt":"2007-06-21T01:20:40","slug":"when-student-becomes-friend","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/06\/when-student-becomes-friend.html","title":{"rendered":"When Student Becomes Friend"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of my former students, Kent Palmer, was once asked, &#8220;What is your relationship with Scot?&#8221; &#8220;It&#8217;s rather complicated, actually.&#8221; So, let me explain:<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nKent was a student of mine at Trinity, long ago, and the course I taught was called &#8220;Jesus and Discipleship.&#8221; Teaching a course the first time and having a student who was convinced the subject was significant for pastoral life led Kent and I to a relationship that is now in its second decade. He has been my student and I have been his professor.<br \/>\nAnd he has been my pastor. And he has been a critic of my manuscripts and I a critic of his sermons. He has given me advice and I him. And he has been the father of a son who was playing baseball against my son &#8212; you could say we were rivals. And he has been a supporter of some of my ideas and a critic of others. And he has been a regular lunch companion.<br \/>\nAnd yesterday he was my golf partner, which means we were in a four hour conversation. The game of golf we played was table dressing. It was the first time I played this year. On the 10th hole I was imitating a Tiger Woods&#8217; move of looking at my swing to concentrate on the motion of the downswing so I could get my drive to fade and, bingo, something happened in my lower right back and I was sore the rest of the day. (As I sit here it aches, but nothing serious. Part of playing the first time.)  We like to play early so we don&#8217;t give up the stomach of a day.<br \/>\nMost importantly, though, governing all of our relationships these days is that we are friends. We sometimes talk about unimportant things; I call him occasionally and see if he can have lunch; sometimes he calls me. We chat over lunch about all kinds of things &#8212; his recent sabbatical and my upcoming one. My adult children&#8217;s doings and the various moves of his three sons. I tell him his wife has a &#8220;wicked funny&#8221; sense of humor and he sometimes asks me about something psychological because he knows I&#8217;ve absorbed some of that stuff from Kris.<br \/>\nKent&#8217;s big question for me yesterday was this: &#8220;How did you get into the Anabaptist thing?&#8221; Easy answer: In 1978 I read Ronald Sider, <em>Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger<\/em> when I was simultaneously working patiently through the Sermon on the Mount and Kris was in a Bible study with some ladies from the local Catholic Worker group, and I&#8217;ve never been the same since. I&#8217;ve seen nothing that makes me want to abandon that basic orientation to what it&#8217;s all about.<br \/>\nNothing like playing golf with a friend.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of my former students, Kent Palmer, was once asked, &#8220;What is your relationship with Scot?&#8221; &#8220;It&#8217;s rather complicated, actually.&#8221; So, let me explain:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":298,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2311","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-education","category-pastoring-and-preaching"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>When Student Becomes Friend - Jesus Creed<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/06\/when-student-becomes-friend.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"When Student Becomes Friend - Jesus Creed\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"One of my former students, Kent Palmer, was once asked, &#8220;What is your relationship with Scot?&#8221; 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