{"id":2198,"date":"2007-06-01T01:10:07","date_gmt":"2007-06-01T01:10:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2007\/06\/first-day-is-goldingay-1.html"},"modified":"2007-06-01T01:10:07","modified_gmt":"2007-06-01T01:10:07","slug":"first-day-is-goldingay-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/06\/first-day-is-goldingay-1.html","title":{"rendered":"First Day is Goldingay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On the first day of the month, unless it falls on a weekend, we dip into a chapter of John Goldingay&#8217;s <em>Old Testament Theology: Israel&#8217;s Gospel<\/em>. This month we look at chp 3, &#8220;God Started Over: From Eden to Babel.&#8221;<!--more|inline--><br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;ll tell you what I like most about this chp: Goldingay gets right into the narrative shape of these chps and tells it like it is &#8212; he does his best to keep outside interests overriding the seeming bent of the narrative and he presents a view of God that very much just like the God of these chps &#8212; and that is no easy task.<br \/>\nNow if you want the big question, here it is for me: How would you describe and what do you think of God&#8217;s interactions with humans in chps 3&#8211;11? Think about it; is it the way we&#8217;d describe God&#8217;s interactions with the world today? If you get a chance, breeze through those chps and observe how God interacts with creation. (By the way, Goldingay&#8217;s got some really funny prose here, but you have to read it carefully to see it &#8212; and I&#8217;d be interested in your favorite ones.)<br \/>\nThe first think I liked about this section is that he keeps the theme of Genesis 1-2 guiding us. It is easy for many of us, for me especially perhaps, to skip chps 4-11 and jump on to chp 12. Goldingay says there is no material break between chps 3 and 4-11 &#8212; the so-called &#8220;fall&#8221; best describes the mess-ups (in almost Dumb and Dumber fashion) of chps 3 through 11.<br \/>\nThe theme is that God wants to bless the earth by extending his rule to everything and he chooses to extend that rule through his Eikons &#8212; Adam and Eve and their children and families. That blessings runs into all kinds of obstacles &#8212; Adam&#8217;s and Eve&#8217;s being only the first; then Cain and then folks like Lamech and Noah and then up the idolatrous sorts who created the (collapsing) tower of Babel.<br \/>\nGod converses with humans &#8212; seemingly seeking information at times: &#8220;This sounds like a conversation like any other &#8230; such anthropomorphisms presumably tell us something true about God&#8217;s relationship with the world&#8221; (136-137).<br \/>\nHe compares God&#8217;s relationship to the world like that of a novelist &#8212; who sets the characters and knows where they are headed but lets the characters develop as they unfold naturally.<br \/>\nPatriarchy will seek to ruin mutuality in all its forms &#8212; marriages and families and nations &#8212; and patriarchy rules &#8230; as does testosterone &#8230; &#8220;the finding of identity and significance in the number of women you possess and the number of men you overwhelm&#8221; (155). [Note to self: is this the issue in Gen 3:16?]<br \/>\nThe biblical God, contrary to Barth, is not hidden; God&#8217;s normal ways are not to hide but to be present.<br \/>\nGod does not abandon humans or creation &#8212; even when it ruins what God has planned.<br \/>\nHe connects Babel with the desire to get back to Eden; falling short of that, they seek to get to God on their own.<br \/>\nIs the point of chps 4&#8211;11 to show us that on our own we can&#8217;t do it? Is it to set up humans for the covenant relationship with God, in the shape of a community, so that God&#8217;s blessing can be extended into the world?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the first day of the month, unless it falls on a weekend, we dip into a chapter of John Goldingay&#8217;s Old Testament Theology: Israel&#8217;s Gospel. 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