{"id":2006,"date":"2007-03-23T02:20:59","date_gmt":"2007-03-23T02:20:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/2007\/03\/the-big-you-and-the-bible-3.html"},"modified":"2007-03-23T02:20:59","modified_gmt":"2007-03-23T02:20:59","slug":"the-big-you-and-the-bible-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/jesuscreed\/2007\/03\/the-big-you-and-the-bible-3.html","title":{"rendered":"The Big &#8220;You&#8221; and the Bible 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mark Allan Powell&#8217;s book, <em>What Do They Hear?<\/em>, opens up for pastors and laity the differences between how they read the Bible and what they hear when they read it &#8212; especially when they are not together. Chp 4 concerns &#8220;meaning&#8221; and &#8220;effect.&#8221; (Note to self: I&#8217;m not sure Mark always distinguishes between &#8220;affect&#8221; and &#8220;effect.&#8221;) This chp presents a very important difference in reading the Bible between clergy and laity. <!--more|inline--><br \/>\nFirst, many see &#8220;meaning&#8221; as &#8220;message&#8221; and focus on the theological, propositional content. Others see &#8220;meaning&#8221; as &#8220;effect&#8221; &#8212; what the text does to the person or how it &#8220;affects&#8221; them.<br \/>\nHe had readers look at Luke 3:3-17, Luke&#8217;s description of John Baptist&#8217;s ministry and message. He asked clergy and laity to answer this question: &#8220;what does this story mean?&#8221; Here are some conclusions:<br \/>\n1. Clergy consider authorial intent (they say &#8220;Luke&#8217;s intention&#8221;), historical situations, the synthetic message, and find relevance in contextual analogies.<br \/>\n2. Laity consider reader response (affect\/effect), contemporary and personal significance, meaning is impact, and relevance is found in unmediated application.<br \/>\nI found this interesting, and I find it interesting because (1) I teach students and laity how to read the Bible and (2) I&#8217;ve struggled with the transition of trying to get students and laity to learn how to &#8220;objectify&#8221; the text so they are speaking about &#8220;Luke&#8217;s intention.&#8221; Now the question arises &#8212; sure, that is a struggle. Is that the necessary struggle in order to acquire the skill of learning to read the Bible? Are we sufficiently aware of how &#8220;untrained readers of the Bible&#8221; read the Bible? Do we too easily skip over the reader response stuff to get to the history, to the analogous, to the original intent?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark Allan Powell&#8217;s book, What Do They Hear?, opens up for pastors and laity the differences between how they read the Bible and what they hear when they read it &#8212; especially when they are not together. 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